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        Tony,
      
           
      
      
        Jay has a 
        good point.    
      
      
        All the accounting on the Ranque-Hilsch device is still not 
        in.  That's the device where you input a stream of air, into a section 
        with two branches (one to the left and one to the right).  Instead of 
        the air branching at the same temperature, due to the construction of 
        the device one of the branches puts out warmer air and the other puts 
        out cooler air.
      
         
      
        There is a 
        continuing debate on this effect. 
      
      
        Cheers,  
      
      
        Tom 
       
      
      
           
          Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:15:22 -0400 
           
          In reference to Tom Bearden's statement: 
            
          "Even grains of sand — agitated in a two-chamber 
          vessel where the two chambers are connected by a hole — act in the 
          manner referred to as a "Maxwell's demon" {[9]}.  The agitated sand 
          does separate {[10]} as if for Maxwell's famous demon, with the hotter 
          and faster-moving grains migrating to one chamber and the cooler 
          grains migrating to the other chamber.  But because of the exchange of 
          energy between grains of sand, this separation is thought not to 
          violate the second law, since individual grains absorb and radiate 
          heat, and so energy is exchanged.  It is well known that 
          disequilibrium exchange of energy allows violation of the second law 
          {[11]}. In the agitated sand system, disequilibrium is provided by the 
          steady input of mechanical energy from outside the system." 
            
          This type of system is analogous and perhaps in some 
          way dynamically equivalent to the Ranque-Hilsch device which has 
          always interested me. 
            
          thank you. 
            
          Jay  
        
      
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