Comments on Sipsey Street Irregulars: Not in my name: A Georgia III% group manages to conjure up every single negative stereotype of the Patriot movement

Matt, I just want to be clear, are you saying tha...

2016-09-16T22:47:28.124-05:00

Matt,

I just want to be clear, are you saying that ANY association with white supremacists is repugnant to the III%? Even when that association is second hand (a friend of a friend or what seems to be the case here, someone defending another groups 1st ammendment rights)?
And can you demonstrate the intent of the III% 'catechism' that disavows any such 'code of conduct'?

I'm new to the III and would like your input on these issues.

Tenderfoot

If GSF was a fine example of a "true militia&...

2016-09-16T11:34:51.808-05:00

If GSF was a fine example of a "true militia", it would not be on this discussion. If Hill was a fine example of a leader, there wouldn't be a GSF/ Hill and Kessler survivors club that actually has nearly 3 times as many members than GSF does, he would still be leading us all.

If you think armed protests of every government action you can pervert, playing Rambo in the woods, making youtube videos, and declaring wars against governments and ISIS makes you a fine example of a true Militia, and the rest of us are snowflakes because we don't "youtube", then you cannot possibly begin to understand the problems with in your own organization.

Dude, Most of us Rambo. Many of us are highly active.

We KNOW you're active.

It's your "activities" that put you in this conversation.

It is your activities that make you guys the punch line of a good joke in most Militia and Patriothe Communities.

It's a shame, because you guys really could be great.

Not in my name... Kerodin is that you again, or a...

2016-09-16T03:33:47.638-05:00

Not in my name...

Kerodin is that you again, or a new III% movement 'owner'?

You might like the muzzys setting up shop in your neighborhood, we don't. and if you had tsken the frigging time to research the incident before you opened your mouth, you wou;d have found that the commission had already gone behind closed doors in violation of sunshine laws, with ZERO public (as in the citizens of the county) and passed it with muzzy's using false document names.

If it was on the up and up, we wouldn't be having this problem right now, would we?

The people in the COMMUNITY found out about it, got pissed at the deception, and are fighting back against it, guess in your eys they're supposed to bow like little sheep to a system that is already stacked against them.

You're getting in the trenches on the wrong side of this fight, thought damn CAIR wrote your article.

AOV

Every single one of you wanna be patriot snowflake...

2016-09-16T00:33:37.060-05:00

Every single one of you wanna be patriot snowflakes can go to hell Georgia Security Force III% is a fine example of a true milita.. if you don't believe that is not so then please do explain how yours is any better we are fucking active not sitting around on a blog and talking shit like you twatwaffles

There is a lot of fodder about this and all I can ...

2016-09-15T20:40:23.624-05:00

There is a lot of fodder about this and all I can say is how can you believe what people say? If you did not attend or do not attend meetings how can you say what happened? You get your info from the media. A UK paper carried the story and you know what their headline read? "Armed Militia Storm City Council Meeting"

Another patriot dust up. Look if a group wants to ...

2016-09-15T18:06:54.609-05:00

Another patriot dust up. Look if a group wants to piss on a mosque sidewalk lawn and write III% with their wizz, well have at it. I don't like the muzzie movement and we sure as shit don't need more people rammed up our end zones in this country (we're full up on illegal beans at the moment).

Every 3rd person you encounter in this movement is likely a fed or local le, get used to it.
We are fast becoming a cross between NI and VZ. Act accordingly.

God help us all.

EXCELLENT video Cal. Thanks for posting it! Mak...

2016-09-15T17:46:10.564-05:00

EXCELLENT video Cal. Thanks for posting it!

Makes one wonder why we've let SCOTUS rule unchallenged for all these years.

A local article that isn't to full of state ru...

2016-09-15T17:16:16.254-05:00

A local article that isn't to full of state run propaganda,and it cancels out all the BS in this comment thread .

And y'all should be ashamed to call yourself patriots , to attack another without all the facts makes all of you traitors and a tool of the tyrants,

http://www.newtoncitizen.com/news/local/update-demonstrators-share-the-stage-in-downtown-covington/article_b4739b92-9140-5c10-bbbb-f472e89c4c12.html

Some things to consider about our country. Though...

2016-09-15T15:51:43.047-05:00

Some things to consider about our country. Though this video is labeled "Immigration", and mainly covers it, you (generic "you") will probably learn a lot that you might not know since it has been "kept under wraps" for decades.

Most people who attended school, military training, LEO training within the last 30 years will most certainly question if this can be true. Please read the US Constitution afterwards if you will bother to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iya0eNlu9D0

this is from the free Hillsdale Online College free Constitution course. I also highly recommend the Public Policy (regulatory) video also
( http://online.hillsdale.edu/courses/public-policy/lecture-5 )

No Dontaistorm.... We understand "What"...

2016-09-15T15:34:16.016-05:00

No Dontaistorm.... We understand "What" the protest was about.

That is not our issue with Hill and GSF.

The issue comes from the Conduct and Actions from that protest.

Your behavior was pre-emptive, radical, representing extreme ideological opinions as Usual, under the guise of "Patriotism".

It is not difficult to find GSF youtube videos that demonstrate clearly how radical and Extreme GSF actually is.

Constant armed protests of every government action you can pervert standing on the corner out side the CNN building in downtown Atlanta in full battle Rattle, brandishing your rifles, and yelling at citizens with your bull Horns.

Or YouTube "Cartoons" playing Rambo in the woods and declaring wars against governments and ISIS, or calling out other Patriots and Militia as weak keyboard warriors.

But while GSF was doing that, many of us were giving water to the thirsty in Flint, Michigan.

You want to do real Patriot Shit, drop the egotistical narcissistic macho crappie, and find something good to do in the communities we serve.

Patriotism, especially Militia has an obl8gation to the people we swear to protect.

The flags we fly and the patches we wear on our sleeves must be seen by the public as symbols of hope, Safety, Charity, empathy, Humility and Goodwill.

GSF is an utter embarrassment to the values of American Patriots and American Militia.

"It is not Cool to be Militia, but an unfortunate Duty should we ever be required."

Lol.... Just reading General BloodAgents comment h...

2016-09-15T13:43:26.413-05:00

Lol.... Just reading General BloodAgents comment here should tell you everything you need to know about Chris Hill.

As someone who has known him from the beginning. Someone who knows the truth of Chris Hill and his lengthy history of Radical behavior and Extreme and perverted ideology going all the way back to the Good Old Days of "Constitutional Security Force" and III% B.O.G, the original III% Security Force, to which I am honored and privileged to sit as CSF/BOG's new National President, General BloodAgent is know better than a terrorist jihadist himself.

Add to it, "Too many people join Militia because they think it's cool to pretend to be generals and protesting every government action they can pervert.

It is not Cool to be Militia, but an unfortunate Duty should we ever be required.

Unfortunately, there are those who call themselves Patriots and Militia and men with extreme ideologies like Hill pose a real threat to the American Standards of our Way of life."

Funny....trial for the group at Malheur Wildlife R...

2016-09-15T13:43:12.748-05:00

Funny....trial for the group at Malheur Wildlife Refuge started yesterday...and no mention of it here.

I may not have agreed with the tactics used there....I can certainly understand the sentiment....sorta like this situation.

mjw-1982: Brother, shots have been fired. This p...

2016-09-15T13:43:09.808-05:00

mjw-1982:

Brother, shots have been fired. This particular FOB has not been built or staffed with soldiers, but that army has fired shots against Americans in America. What will it take to get us to return fire? Well, I'm not at that point. Yet.

It is theoretically possible to practice mahometanism just as a religion, I grant you. Just as it is possible for a Baptist like myself to go to church o'Sundays, having brushed a week's worth of dust off the Bible, and never a thought or act directly attributable to belief in anything. There's a reason the terrorists used to be (pre-PC) known as muslim "fundamentalists"-- the ones most serious about their "religion" are the most dangerous.

But go ahead and allow that seed to be planted in *your* neighborhood.

No, Matt doesn't own the III% concept. Mike d...

2016-09-15T13:38:14.452-05:00

No, Matt doesn't own the III% concept. Mike didn't either, he just created it. Bring it back to the catechism:

1. moral strength
2. physical readiness
3. no first use of force
4. no targeting of innocents

As many have indicated, protesting the mosque without evidence of wrongdoing "under the III% banner" indicates a lack of respect for freedom of speech and religion, causing you to lose the moral high ground.

Also, as others have mentioned, unless these folks are engaged in criminal activity, then they're innocent and are afforded rights without a litmus test. Chasing them out is a violation of the "no targeting of innocents" clause.

Much like how the founders did everything inside the law until it became unbearable and things got sporting, we must also do the same and hold ourselves above reproach if we are to call ourselves III%ers.

There you go again , relying on state run media to...

2016-09-15T13:29:00.822-05:00

There you go again , relying on state run media to report what the protest was about , it was to bring ATTENTION to what the Islamist want , that is to destroy Christianity , if you think any different look at what's going on abroad , and you can look at Dearborn Mi also , Christians are outcast there.

They have a right to worship until there religion calls for the killing of anyone that don't convert , there's no denouement it.

people are adding "III" to their name th...

2016-09-15T13:15:46.665-05:00

people are adding "III" to their name the way revolutionaries in the 60's would add "liberation front" to theirs. they have zero concept of what the words mean, but they sound good, and other good groups use it...and we want to be like those groups..

First, you do not "own" the III% movemen...

2016-09-15T12:28:56.077-05:00

First, you do not "own" the III% movement, so who are you to say they should not "hide" behind it. Second, no matter how they showed up they would get the same treatment from the propaganda media outlets. One idiot brit (intentionally lower caps) even said they were violent with machine guns! My point is I was not there, I don't know the dynamics of their county government (likely just as corrupt as the fed/state govs) and I will not judge these people on their actions. I certainly would not quote a facebook quote without first hand knowledge from somebody I knew. Now if researched and proven true, then no I would not want this group around me and mine.

And two more fake Threepers make themselves known....

2016-09-15T12:19:22.882-05:00

And two more fake Threepers make themselves known. I'll tackle ExGeeEye's comments first.

You're absolutely right, you can protest any darn thing you want, but protesting another person's freedom of religion shows you have absolutely no respect for that right.

You can repeat the line about Islam not being a religion (and i kind of agree with you) but it doesn't matter in the least. That argument is nothing but semantics, it doesn't change the fact the Constitution protects you're ability to believe you want.

Shots fired? Strange, I didn't see any reports that the Muslims building that mosque fired any shots at anyone, either here or in the Middle East. Islam is no religion of peace, the grand majority are militaristic murderers, but you don't get to prejudge a small group of Muslims based on what the majority does. When the ones from that mosque start violating our laws and calling for a takeover of Sharia Law then I'll be right next to you chasing them out of the country. Until they do so, they get the same rights as everyone else.

I'm not even going to waste my time with P.G.T. Beauregard's comments. One is nothing but a straw man argument and the other is an insult. Bravo!

Let me use this as an example. If a known gang member moved into your neighborhood would you have the right to chase him out? If he had done nothing to you or your neighbors since moving in, then no, he has the same rights as everyone else. Once he starts stealing, selling drugs to kids and committing drive-by shootings you have the right to get rid of him. The "potential" of a person or group to commit violence does not matter until they actually do. This is not "Minority Report" and you can't take away rights because of "pre-crime". If you think that way, you are not a Three Percenter and should either get your head right or go the hell away.

Matt Wilbanks
Oregon III%

Many conservatives want to claim Islam is not a re...

2016-09-15T11:43:07.791-05:00

Many conservatives want to claim Islam is not a religion....mainly so they can work their will upon a group they don't agree with by claiming they have no First Amendment right to it. That is hypocrisy at its finest, but something that those who self identify as "conservative" engage in on a regular basis.

That said, look up the definition of "religion" and like it or not, Islam fulfills it. It IS a religion but it's also a political, military, legal and societal structure...much like Judaism is.

The truth is: Western society, values and law are simply incompatible with Sharia law precepts. They do not allow equality between religions, sexual preferences, genders, etc. and cannot be tolerated as long as they espouse such views.

The third paragraph may sound contradictory....but what I'm laboring to point out is that as a nation, we are about to come to an impasse when it comes to allowing Islam in our nation. Islam is and will continue to use our First Amendment to slit our throats.

Perhaps a Constitutional Amendment will need to be passed to either exclude Islam from First Amendment protection if it does not change its ethos or, at the very least, an anti-Sharia law amendment be passed codifying the illegality of inequity Islam marks as basic tenets of the faith.

Thus you see the movement to "de-badge" ...

2016-09-15T11:31:13.038-05:00

Thus you see the movement to "de-badge" Islam as a "religion"....so they can deny a whole group of people their right to freedom of religion enumerated in the 1A.

ExGeeEye is 100% correct however, the USC/BoR is a restraint upon GOVERNMENT;not the citizens. As long as these protests don't infringe on anyone elses rights, they are legitimate...EVEN if they may come across as racist or bigoted (something the IIIper movement should avoid if we truly believe "all men are created equal" and are not merely giving the idea lip service). In this case, the protestors appear to have trespassed on to private property.

I suspect the reason for the protest in the first place is because local government decided to cancel the public meeting because they didn't want to have to deal with the backlash. This is NOT government of, by or for the people and it SHOULD have been protested by all citizens since government is shrinking its responsibility to be held accountable to the citizenry.

These protestors would have been better off therefore, to protest the governing body directly. I highly doubt they "knew" it would "accomplish absolutely nothing" and instead were governed by their fear of Islam and went after the direct target instead of the government allowing Islam to grab a foothold in the nation.

As to your PS: So now it's "indefensible...

2016-09-15T11:16:29.115-05:00

As to your PS: So now it's "indefensible" to object to government ownership of our bodies as well as gun control?

I'd say most IIIpers want NFA repealed and believe felons shouldn't be on the street in the first place if they can't have their right to a firearm restored. Further, a great many of us believe that we own ourselves when it comes to end of life decisions, nutrition and what we willingly choose to ingest/consume.

Is firearms training with drugs/alcohol wise? No. Would I personally engage in it or join in with those who do? No. But, if it doesn't affect anyone else's natural, negative rights....it's none of my or your business.

Children being there has no bearing....unless or until their rights are abridged and the use of a mind altering substance isn't the actual source of the abridgment anyway....at best, it's an excuse for why one neglects, abuses or injures their child. Neglect, abuse and willful injury of another are already illegal.

Chris Hill is a self proclaimed leader of that gro...

2016-09-15T11:14:49.436-05:00

Chris Hill is a self proclaimed leader of that group. He did nothing to earn it. I was part of that group for a very short time thankfully and figured him out very soon. He kept telling us he was going to be the martyr taking the bullet. He is very irrational and egotistical. If you question his leadership then you're banned and blocked from the group. Thankfully I did just that. I believe in a true militia and the rights of all the people. Our government does need to be held accountable but you do not abuse one liberty to deny people of another.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit to find a federal a...

2016-09-15T11:10:08.387-05:00

Wouldn't surprise me a bit to find a federal agent provocateur instigating the whole thing. It fits the profile. Of course, the next step is to push them into doing attacks. Some people never learn from history, being immune to it's lessons.

I am Chris Hill. I am not a felon. This long win...

2016-09-15T10:25:39.418-05:00

I am Chris Hill. I am not a felon.
This long winded diatribe confirms with the
idea that perception is more important than the
reality.
In reality, you know fuck all about what the citizens
of Newton Co think. We are not glory hounds. I am a Marine.
I fight.
Maybe you can host another boring ass conference call and Hate Chris Hill.
I don't give fuck.
P.S. you do not own the concept of III%.

moslems consider a mosque to represent 'their ...

2016-09-15T09:49:22.605-05:00

moslems consider a mosque to represent 'their territory' and equivalent to planting a flag on say Iwo Jima. They consider the land theirs forever. It's a poke in the eye to the invaded country. Things will go OK until the moslem population group reaches critical mass, then you get killings, bombings, sharia, intimidation, etc.
So yeah, by all means 'Freedom of (fake) religion.'
At least someone tried to stop it.