tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post9192618162972975795..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Only "Extremists" Believe They Have a Right to be Left Alone William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-90743039844978596522016-01-08T09:22:34.832-07:002016-01-08T09:22:34.832-07:00That clown wasn't arrested for _eating_, but f...That clown wasn't arrested for _eating_, but for not removing hat in the court hall, for courtroom contempt and other CHILDISH shit!<br />He just wants publicity, like any other TV whore.<br />Look here:<br />http://www.belgrade-news.com/news/article_8926881a-5654-11e3-bac2-001a4bcf887a.html<br />or here<br />http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/crime/natural-man-jailed-again/article_6d910b4a-8834-11e3-9850-0019bb2963f4.html<br />or here!<br />http://newstalkkgvo.com/montana-mountain-man-sent-to-jail-after-refusing-to-remove-hat/<br />For fuck's sake, this annoying bozo should be sentenced to WORK FOR COMMUNITY, not to imprisonment on public money!<br />Fuckin' clown!...Albert Guilmonthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08106915447555226008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51401934743195858572015-01-29T12:33:31.823-07:002015-01-29T12:33:31.823-07:00I have to agree with Lemuer Gullivers "BIGGER...I have to agree with Lemuer Gullivers "BIGGER PICTURE" of the underlying implications of what this "ALL" means. My mind was opened up more. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41531945420101392972015-01-18T22:13:42.855-07:002015-01-18T22:13:42.855-07:00December Anonymous, your premise is that you belie...December Anonymous, your premise is that you believe it is okay that some humans can kidnap a person who is fishing for himself and his family.<br /><br />You also believe that it is okay for those same people to kill the fisherman "for the benefit of the fish".<br /><br />Government power is force, and nothing but. When force is initiated by ANYONE, including those employed by a government, it is illegal.<br /><br />A government can either be founded on force alone, or on delegated consent of individuals. Governments in the USA were created by law, from the consent of individuals. If a thing is wrong for an individual to do, it is wrong for a government agent to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58595851347892713922014-12-19T18:28:51.274-07:002014-12-19T18:28:51.274-07:00I have not read every comment here, so I am not an...I have not read every comment here, so I am not an authority, but I do feel that a fishing license is for the benefit of all. The license limits over killing of fish or game and identifies who is hunting or fishing . I don't have any comments on whether the US government as of lately is right or wrong, ( maybe a little of both ) Just the fact we can read about this mountain man is some proof we can at least say what we want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30212639795214762492014-09-20T10:46:20.208-06:002014-09-20T10:46:20.208-06:00The term "license" derives from a Latin ...The term "license" derives from a Latin term that means, simply, "liberty."<br /><br />Mr. telTelgte assumes that in a state of nature he is free to do whatever doesn't injure another human being. His physical existence is not contingent on permission from anybody else -- or what we would commonly call a "license."<br /><br />On the subject of confusion: How can someone receive, and why would anybody have to seek, "permission ... not to do that which is illegal"? Are we required to do that which is illegal, unless we're given permission not to break the law? And if we obtain permission "to do that which is illegal," doesn't this mean the act in question is <i>legal</i>? <br /><br /><br />William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55912733958797567512014-09-20T10:31:53.505-06:002014-09-20T10:31:53.505-06:00This note regards the author's assertion:
&qu...This note regards the author's assertion:<br /><br />"Ernie Wayne terTelgte is a poor man from a tiny village in Montana who believes that nature gives him a license to live."<br /><br />Said assertion demonstrates a profound confusion regarding the English language. I would assert the author's first language is not English for this reason: a license is simply permission to do or not do that which is illegal. Nature is not a legal concept nor is life. Life is not illegal. Life is a right. Therefore, it is nonsensical to assert that life has anything to do with license.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55056495907609230612014-05-13T21:14:11.126-06:002014-05-13T21:14:11.126-06:00Thank you, I.W. The piece you refer to wasn't ...Thank you, I.W. The piece you refer to wasn't originally published here; I actually wrote it for Lew Rockwell's blog last week. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41419831910242139412014-05-13T20:46:05.523-06:002014-05-13T20:46:05.523-06:00Amazing that the search box here can not find the...Amazing that the search box here can not find the article "NEVER Let Your Kids Talk to the Police" nor is it listed under that date as posted on Lew Rockewell.<br /><br />I do not want to post the LR version because it always looks so bad as compared to here...<br /><br />Thanks for your time Will<br /><br />InalienableWrightshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02108700971976990644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-22585559241347931422014-05-12T21:21:34.800-06:002014-05-12T21:21:34.800-06:00Patrick Henry,
You said it exactly. The military...Patrick Henry,<br /> <br />You said it exactly. The military, under the Constitution, is directed by psychopathic civilians who would never in a million years go near a battlefield. Or let their children do so. THAT is the source of the corruption and evil filth that you saw in your service. As yet, the military serves the psychopaths, and yes, the troops are trained to be psychopaths. (Especially the Special Forces, whom I would omit from my characterization of the military as "moral." The SF men are selected for their viciousness, and mind-programmed to ask no questions and to be mere killing robots.) <br /> <br />But why are more veterans killing themselves than died in the obscene and illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? (I believe it is some 20 suicides each and every day - nobody is counting, so the number is hard to verify.) Because they are basically good men who have been forced to do things that make their lives unbearable. The few individuals who enjoyed it, and are happy with what they did, return home and become American "law enforcement officers," in jobs where they can continue to abuse people and kill them at will, with immunity from prosecution for murder. Their atrocities against the American people are Mr. Grigg's stock-in-trade for these essays he writes to infuriate us.<br /> <br />Please go up and re-read what I said about the Joint Chiefs. These are men, unlike the appointed heads of every other agency of government, who have worked their way up from the ranks, or from West Point or Annapolis. They know what they and their troops are being asked to do, and how evil it is. They have threatened mutiny, if they should be pushed too far by the psychopaths. <br /> <br />No country has attacked this nation since Pearl Harbor, (and that itself was a put-up affair,) yet we have attacked and destroyed countless helpless nations which refused to give up their natural resources to American corporations. How many American soldiers and helpless civilians in those nations have died to enrich the oligarchs and bankers? It is uncountable.<br /> <br />So no, what I said was not a joke. If you could speak to some (not all, to be sure) of the generals in the Pentagon, you would know that they are decent, honorable men. They keep their mouths shut, because speaking out against the civilian crazies is a ticket to early retirement at a minimal pay-grade.<br /> <br /> - Lemuel Gulliver.<br /><br />PS: Re. my Pearl Harbor assertion above: 9-11 was not an attack on America by another country. Believe it or not, but it was a political coup originated and organized right here at home. On THREE occasions prior to 9-11, the Taliban offered to arrest Bin Laden and hand him over to the US, but their offers were ignored. Why? Because the 9-11 operation had to go forward, in order to establish the police state we see presently developing around us. There are 24 or so members of the (Sunni) Bin Laden family hiding in Tehran under the protection of (Shiite) Iran, afraid to leave the country. Why? They know too much about 9-11, and would be killed by the USA if they opened their mouths in Iran, or went abroad where they could interact with Westerners. <br /><br />Why did you think they rounded up every Bin Laden in America on 9-12-2001 and flew them all out of the country in such a hurry, when every single other plane in the sky was grounded, even the one which was supposed to fly Pentagon brass back from California, and the plane carrying King Abdullah of Jordan, which was turned back over the Atlantic? Explain for me please?<br /> <br />You, and 99% of the public, has no concept, and cannot even imagine, how evil the rulers of this country are, (and I am not talking about the 535 jackasses emitting hot gas up on Capitol Hill.) A billion deaths would not cause them to lose a second of sleep at night.<br /><br /> - LGLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6301342929968283422014-05-12T11:23:36.799-06:002014-05-12T11:23:36.799-06:00They have laid claim to us through their documents...They have laid claim to us through their documents and trickery of language, yet we still fail to claim the name of Jesus the Christ, whose blood payed our dept to the king if this world, rendering us LAWLESS. Jesus was the very first Anarchist, in promotion of self governance and God internal as judge and jury. So why do we refuse the sacrifice? Because we don't believe nor understand truly. Even the word "Christ" is in ALL dictionaries as "savior".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-11227148322364921212014-05-12T08:15:08.763-06:002014-05-12T08:15:08.763-06:00Lemuel Gulliver ...The military is the only decent...Lemuel Gulliver ...The military is the only decent agency of government?..... They are murderous ignoramuses, killing the innocent overseas and helping in New Orleans to rob Americans of their protection from looters, for corporate profit and the bank accounts of a few rich billionaires..... I know, I was one of them for 17 years, till I awoke and said I cannot do this....this is wrong.....and quit outright.....I hope this was sarcasm?Patrick Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09590826175356201052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20583586097916222352014-05-12T08:02:06.808-06:002014-05-12T08:02:06.808-06:00"Plucking a fish from a “publicly owned” pond..."Plucking a fish from a “publicly owned” pond without a license is considered an offense"<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, Montana statutes actually contain a provision allowing a person to take a deer without a license or tag, provided it is done by someone who is somehow destitute and for putting meat on the table. I heard that anyway; haven't seen it though.Paul Bonneaunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91843671917441846312014-05-11T10:40:14.393-06:002014-05-11T10:40:14.393-06:00Lemuel mass extinction would be the nicest thing t...Lemuel mass extinction would be the nicest thing that could happen to us death ends all problems. But imagine if some do survive will they help other rebuild? reality and fiction point no.<br /><br />it will survival of the fittest then i hope sincerely that he leaders survive to feel that era where there influence and money means absolutely jack shitDiaz Cruzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00147126625343306082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-57431770014195748012014-05-10T23:38:34.573-06:002014-05-10T23:38:34.573-06:00PS: Mr, Grigg, to do the math more explicitly for ...PS: Mr, Grigg, to do the math more explicitly for your readers.... The US and Russia have agreed to limit their nuclear warheads to about 1,500 bombs each, figuring that is plenty enough to completely destroy each others' country. If there was a nuclear war, and the US power stations all melted down, the fallout would be equivalent to some TWO MILLION H-bombs. As humanity elswhere on the planet died off, and the other 321 nuclear plants also melted down, the eventual fallout would be equivalent to some EIGHT MILLION H-bombs. <br /> <br />If anyone was around to make note of it, it would be interesting to see if even the cockroaches would survive.<br /> <br />And you think YOU have depressing news to tell the American people? If the madmen in Washington are not stopped, and soon, this planet is finished. The scientists tell us there are a few billion years left before the sun expands and swallows the Earth up, so perhaps there is time for life to evolve again.<br /> <br />If so, and if a dominant species arises again, let us hope it evolves with a modicum more intelligence than Homo "Sapiens."<br /><br /> - LGLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-16973413868253619672014-05-10T18:53:03.262-06:002014-05-10T18:53:03.262-06:00(CONTINUED)
Greed is stupid. Aesop wrote 2,500 ye...(CONTINUED)<br /><br />Greed is stupid. Aesop wrote 2,500 years ago about the farmer that killed the goose that laid the golden eggs, in order to get more eggs faster, and thus got no more golden eggs.<br /><br />Psychopathy is also stupid. Humanity has only progressed from the apes to where we have gotten now by co-operation and mutual assistance. Predatory psychopaths, like the greedy farmer, destroy the very social systems on which they prey and depend on for their existence, like viruses or diseases that kill their host.<br /> <br />The greedy psychopaths in our Government - the neocons, oligarchs, and their servants - sincerely believe that since the US has more and better nuclear weapons than Russia, that we can win a nuclear war with them. They have built vast underground complexes, where they figure they can hide for a year or two, then emerge to a new and glorious depopulated world, all available for them alone. They look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which are today lived-in by millions of people, and figure they can do the same. This is insanity. Why?<br /> <br />Because, what they have not figured, which did not exist in 1945, is that there are 425 nuclear power stations in the world, and 72 more under construction (mostly in China.) 104 of them are in the USA. In the event of a nuclear war, the U.S. power grid would go down for 5-10 years at least, which means no more gasoline would be available.<br /> <br />Once the 104 nuclear power stations (if they were not directly targeted by Russia) ran out of diesel for their backup generators, they would begin to melt down, and you would have 104 Fukushimas going off in this country, emitting inconceivable amounts of radiation, which would poison the earth for the next 30,000 years, and kill every animal alive. Mass extinction. Unless the rulers are prepared to live underground for 5,000 - 20,000 years, they are doomed.<br /> <br />One H-bomb contains 30-50 kg of plutonium. One nuclear power station, and its pools of spent fuel rods, contains at least a thousand tons, or two or three, of over 200 massively radioactive isotopes, some of which, like plutonium, have a half-life of 24,500 years.<br /><br />These are the madmen in charge of our country and the world.<br /><br />And the American people worry about some racist owner of a football team, or some dancing contest for the stars, or some Hollywood star who divorced his fifth wife. Nobody wants to think about depressing things such as I have described. Try to tell them. They will turn away or change the subject. I wonder how many will read this far, of what I have written.<br /><br />So when the Hammer of God falls on our heads, everyone will cry and wail and ask, "What happened?"<br /><br />They will never know. As they breathe their last, they will rail at God and pray for forgiveness for them and their children and all the other life-forms on the planet. Let's hope someone will be listening.<br /> <br /> - Lemuel GulliverLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51160654182797380652014-05-10T18:07:44.906-06:002014-05-10T18:07:44.906-06:00Leslie,
Thanks. Your idea is not unique - there w...Leslie,<br /><br />Thanks. Your idea is not unique - there was a sign at Occupy Wall Street that said: "I'll believe coporations are people when the State of Texas executes one of them." <br /> <br />A nice observation on both corruptions - the wrongful application of the death penalty when the whole system knows the conviction was incorrect but the victim gets snuffed anyway, and the wrongful concept of corporations as "people." <br /><br />Corporations have no conscience, no heart or kidneys, no blood flowing in their veins, and no motivation except predation on society, and on the rest of the ecosystem, and maximization of their own profit. This is the classic medical description of a psychopathic criminal - Hannibal Lecter in a three-piece suit. <br /> <br />"BP" did not kill 11 workers and destroy the livelihoods of thousands of fishermen in the Deepwater Horizon blowout - the executives of BP who made the decisions leading to the disaster did that. Punishing BP is merely punishing the pension funds and people who own its stock. Thom Hartman, whom Mr. Grigg quotes, has made a lifetime mission of pointing out this absurdity, but has gotten nowhere. The corporations give too much money to politicians, and the Supreme Court backs up these practices more and more. <br /> <br />Many people fear the military, because it has the firepower, and is supposedly directed by the psychopathic politicians, but the day will come, I am certain, when the military will be the salvation of this nation by overthrowing the present corrupt order and restoring the Constitution. Recall the events I mentioned above. It is the only arm of Government which is as yet not corrupted. (Not the military-industrial complex, but the military itself.) This is because psychopaths and thieves will not put themselves in a position where they might be shot at. So they do not join the military, and so far, it is the only moral agency of Government left in this country.<br /><br />Few people know this either, but there is deep hatred between the military on one hand, and the CIA and State Department on the other. The Joint Chiefs have seen the destruction of the lives of thousands of their boys (and some girls) in the service of the evil agendas of those other agencies, and they are very, very unhappy about it.<br /> <br />Believe this or not as you will: Julian Assange was an agent of the US Military complex, and his purpose was to ruin the evil plans of the State Department and CIA. Do you really think he got ALL that information from the unfortunate Bradley/Chelsea Manning? Some, yes, but not all.<br /><br />I firmly believe that the only thing which can save this country, and the world, is an insurrection backed up by the force of military arms. Let us hope such a thing does not come too late, after the psychopaths have manipulated us into a nuclear war with Russia.<br /><br />(CONTINUED)...Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70017300909887710012014-05-10T04:10:48.196-06:002014-05-10T04:10:48.196-06:00LG: We might be able to do something along those l...LG: We might be able to do something along those lines right now. Since the SCOTUS has declared that a corporation is a person, then any honest Law Enforcement Officer can arrest, jail and try one. Seriously! A corporation may be a "person" with its "body" spread out over half the world, but its "brain" consists of its officers -- the board of directors -- can be found in one small convenient spot every time it holds a meeting. So, next time a corporation commits murder, or "negligent homicide", send the cops in to arrest the lot of them, haul them off to jail, and try them as a single unit.<br /><br />Once we've tried and found guilty and jailed one of them, it'll be legally easier to likewise arrest whole departments of government. See where this is going?Leslie Fishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12186389632127123494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44272613666735855042014-05-09T16:32:56.567-06:002014-05-09T16:32:56.567-06:00Mr. Grigg, you quote:
"As a result, summariz...Mr. Grigg, you quote:<br /><br />"As a result, summarizes progressive commentator Thom Hartman, the military now has the power to label us terrorists, capture us, lock us up in jail, and hold us there without any regard for our Constitutional rights to due process or a fair trial.” <br /><br />It is not well known, but on 2-3 occasions already, the military Joint Chiefs Of Staff have let the President know privately that a certain order, such as attacking Iran or Syria, would be disobeyed. Yes, this would be mutiny, if the order was issued. On those occasions, the President has decided not to call their bluff, and has backed down. (I refer to BOTH Bush AND Obama. This has only happened since 9-11.)<br /><br />The day may yet come when the military, under legal authority of the NDAA, provided to them by Congress, signed by the President, and ratified by the Supreme Court, might arrest and imprison any or all of the above, indefinitely, without trial, without recourse to legal counsel, and without even acknowledging who has been arrested or why... Quite legally.<br /><br />Such might be the unintended consequences, when moronic psychopaths in Washington, with a grandiose and excessive sense of their own power and intelligence, pass laws which can be turned completely against them. These jackasses who lord it over us like kings and aristocrats whose fecal matter does not stink, may some day wake up to discover with astonishment that they have been trapped and destroyed by their own arrogance and hubris.<br /><br />Haste then the day, when the faith shall be sight, and the clouds be rolled back as a scroll!<br />The trumpet shall sound, and true justice be served, on that day it shall comfort my soul.<br /><br />(With apologies to Horatio G. Spafford.)<br /><br /> - LGLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-78374280412592089362014-05-09T13:40:50.692-06:002014-05-09T13:40:50.692-06:00This is the King's Pond/fish, you,knave! WHo ...This is the King's Pond/fish, you,knave! WHo do you think you are? You're a peasant!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83947366314352232362014-05-09T07:46:57.670-06:002014-05-09T07:46:57.670-06:00Whatever leads a person to propose acceptance of t...Whatever leads a person to propose acceptance of the treatment of people like Ernie Wayne terTelgte as criminals - I won't eat or drink it.<br />(referring to rkshanny's comment)<br /><br />That seems to me to be exactly what defines a sheeple.<br /><br />Anybody with balls will be disrespected by the sheeple. It is shameful and slavish to accept the view that any man or woman should accept this kind of abuse.<br /><br />What is the essence of freedom (liberty) but in the defiant heart of a free man and the intent to live in the most natural and happy way that is possible?<br /><br />You can't buy a clue. It has to exist within you already.<br /><br />Hats off to Ernie. rotten fruit and vegetables at the cops and tax-sucking parasites that arrested him. They should be covere in a smelly paste that identifies them as diseased and corrupt to anybody with normal senses.<br /><br />nuff said.<br /><br />My name is Richard.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-81797189701244450332014-05-09T00:48:45.779-06:002014-05-09T00:48:45.779-06:00Once again: his only crime was committing a crimin...Once again: his only crime was committing a criminal offence. On the upside if the fellow ends up in prison his standard living will go up.<br /><br />On the other hand, where did it say the U.S. was founded on anti-government values? Rather the nation was founded on the notion of home-grown government hence the new government was more onerous than the British Crown but that was fine because it was created and run by All-Americans.Gilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31272952355429194982014-05-09T00:31:41.882-06:002014-05-09T00:31:41.882-06:00Great article!
By the way, the infamous sheriff B...Great article!<br /><br />By the way, the infamous sheriff Brown in NC was blown out in a primary defeat by almost 30 points! Articles like yours on lew's site that generated 1.4 thousand "likes" from Facebook alone were a huge part of his defeat. <br /><br />I think he would still be the sheriff after November if social media and non regime bloggers did not exist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-35272761416531609362014-05-09T00:24:50.120-06:002014-05-09T00:24:50.120-06:00Exactly. Sort of like the federalist ratifiers sw...Exactly. Sort of like the federalist ratifiers swearing that federal courts would never rule on state laws - that was explicitly promised by the ratifiers, including a future Supreme Court justice who went back on his word and did exactly what he said the court would never do. <br /><br />As long as the power of the state exists, it will be abused for more and more power. We should have listened to what Samuel told the Israelites and not adopted a secular king or its modern day variants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-89005859316458827782014-05-08T17:34:09.470-06:002014-05-08T17:34:09.470-06:00The idea of Freedom from Government was what our c...The idea of Freedom from Government was what our country was founded on. The fact that you need a license to fish is is a perfect example of how government is nothing more than an impediment to freedom. Wait until the carbon tax scam is fully implemented and you need a license to breathe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-82852126456711163602014-05-08T13:03:33.059-06:002014-05-08T13:03:33.059-06:00What you are describing is not a misunderstanding ...What you are describing is not a misunderstanding about the principles of civics, but the vast and perhaps unbridgeable gulf that separates genuinely civilized people from those who subscribe to statist superstition. <br /><br />I understand, and have written a great deal about, the principle recognized by Augustine in the 5th Century -- namely, that a government is a robber band that has achieved territorial mastery and granted itself impunity. It is, in other words, the most successful aggressor. <br /><br />I reject the proposition that aggression can be moral,or that we should pretend that successful aggression should be ratified. "Limiting" the supposed right to commit aggression is neither morally correct nor practical-- as the failure of the constitutional system demonstrates. (Remember how the Constitution "permanently" limited legislative power, and kept it separate from executive and judicial power? How did that arrangement work out?) <br /><br /><br />The only way out of our predicament is for people to stop validating aggression in any form. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.com