tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post8848862169292989425..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Free Ashton Lundeby! (VERY IMPORTANT Third Update, 5/7)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26036276133437372612009-05-12T15:05:00.000-06:002009-05-12T15:05:00.000-06:00"Someone said, 'The past is another country -- the..."Someone said, 'The past is another country -- they did things differently there.'"...<br /><br />I love it! I'm going to remember this. That "far away land" is but a dim dusty memory and quite likely colored by false nostalgia.<br /><br />"Indeed they did. Most of what we were taught in those proverbial public school civics classes turned out to be preposterous fairy tales."...<br /><br />Yes indeed. People will foolishly, and obediently, repeat the words within the Constitution and Bill of Rights like some magic talisman to ward off evil spirits. If you mouth the words the right way with the right inflection and be sure to repeat it often enough then the bad ju-ju will be cast out. <br /><br />NOT!<br /><br />I believe it was Soros who said there was no place for patriotism in the market place. He was right. It's a fools game to "hope" that things will turn around when your opposition is taking every edge and opportunity to crush you and take what you have all the while using dead words on parchment to bind you into complacent docility while running rough shod over your broken dreams.MoThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13996714804361467430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62062445125693821862009-05-12T03:32:00.000-06:002009-05-12T03:32:00.000-06:00I'm certain that Dixie, as well as myself, can att...I'm certain that Dixie, as well as myself, can attest to the fact that it's more than easy enough to take command of an unprotected router, especially a wireless model, and proceed to use it as ones own. That way everything sent by you through the captured device appears to originate from the house it sits in. A savvy user may even clean up afterwards and purge logs from it prior to disconnect. Sounds like the plot of a movie. Does this mean the kid is automatically innocent? Not really. It could all be a complete setup. The irony of it all is that we pay for our accusers.MoThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13996714804361467430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43394390973614823732009-05-10T00:32:00.000-06:002009-05-10T00:32:00.000-06:00Lemuel,
Somewhere I just read something about the ...Lemuel,<br />Somewhere I just read something about the War of 1812 being unnecessary, but regardless, in the 20th century all you have to do is remember the Maine, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, (Korea doesn't "count", likewise Panama and Grenada, did I miss any others?) the Gulf of Tonkin and the Kuwaiti Hospital barbarities for the first Gulf war. As for the second, 9/11 was the excuse, but while it really happened, Iraw was never shown to have anything to do with it. That about sums it up for staged/provoked/nonexistent incidents doesn't it?Bob Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2573160557524488612009-05-08T14:04:00.000-06:002009-05-08T14:04:00.000-06:00This appears to be turning into an "internet is da...This appears to be turning into an "internet is dangerous and threatening" issue instead of a privacy rights issue. <br /><br />This kid may have done more damage to the preservation of a free and un-regulated, un-monitored internet than people realize.<br /><br />The state, it appears, has scored a victory of sorts unfortunately. <br /><br />Bomb threats are bad, and the kid should be punished for sure. But the precedent has been set, and now the state has justification for it's intrusive activities. <br /><br />Why does it feel lately like the internet is under attack?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-17191567029052498122009-05-08T13:08:00.000-06:002009-05-08T13:08:00.000-06:00Doc Ellis & Will,
Doc, I think you may have hi...Doc Ellis & Will,<br />Doc, I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I would advise Will to review where he got this story - was it sent to him or did he just stumble across it? If someone sent it, Will should view that person with some caution in future.<br /><br />This is exactly what was done to Dan Rather, when he reported on George Bush's Vietnam War record in the Texas Air National Guard. Dan Rather's story was 100% true, in fact Bush's record was even much worse than Rather reported, but Rather was fed bogus supporting documents, which he published and was made to look like a fool. It destroyed Rather's career and made the topic of Bush's Vietnam War record the Third Rail of American journalism. Very slick. Is William N. Grigg now also in "their" crosshairs?<br /><br />Anonymous @ 6:33 pm,<br />Thank you for that link, which gives a whole new slant to the story. ("Yes, my son was a criminal but he didn't do it THIS time.")I also find it strange that Ashton's mother did not appear for his two court hearings in Indiana. I know it is a long way, but if it was MY kid facing a possible 10 years in jail, I would beg, borrow, and scrimp to raise the money to be with him. The charge he faces is not a light one. <br /><br />Will again,<br />Never mind. Even if it turns out you and we have been deliberately misled, the State and the Power Elite which runs it, and their thuggish stormtrooper enforcers, are utterly vicious and need to be resisted.(*) The story you posted on February 5, about the home invasion, handcuffing and trashing of his home of the Mayor of Berwyn Heights, MD, and the shooting of his two pet dogs, (one in the back of the head execution style,) is eerily similar to this story. I invite everyone to go back and read that one. <br /><br />Will, we are still with you.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />Lemuel Gulliver.<br /><br />PS: (*) It is my firm opinion that the last war this country has NEEDED to fight was the War of 1812. Every war since then has been about money and power, not about any threat to the safety of the people. (Including 9-11 and the present war.) They have all been engineered, created and staged for the profit of the Power Elite. The evidence is vast and watertight, but is impossible to cite in this limited space. Some 150+ million people died in wars and internal unrests in the 20th Century alone, all so that the Elite could make money. No other reason. Sheep to the slaughter.Lemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73122277988159674012009-05-08T07:20:00.000-06:002009-05-08T07:20:00.000-06:00Will,
As of 6.12am pdt, I think you may have been...Will,<br /><br />As of 6.12am pdt, I think you may have been set up. This is based on your posts at LCR. If you are a threat, government employees may try to discredit you by getting you to report on a case like this. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe "Jason" had his own deal going and you are collateral damage.<br /><br />mongol Doc Ellis 124Doc Ellishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08543939658083915285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40932773184944293522009-05-08T07:19:00.000-06:002009-05-08T07:19:00.000-06:00FBI remotely installs spyware to trace bomb threat...FBI remotely installs spyware to trace bomb threat<br />by Declan McCullagh <br /><br /><br />The FBI used a novel type of remotely installed spyware last month to investigate who was e-mailing bomb threats to a high school near Olympia, Wash.<br /><br />Federal agents obtained a court order on June 12 to send spyware called CIPAV to a MySpace account suspected of being used by the bomb threat hoaxster. Once implanted, the software was designed to report back to the FBI with the Internet Protocol address of the suspect's computer, other information found on the PC and, notably, an ongoing log of the user's outbound connections. <br /><br /><br />The suspect, former Timberline High School student Josh Glazebrook, was sentenced this week to 90 days in juvenile detention after pleading guilty to making bomb threats and other charges. <br /><br />While there's been plenty of speculation about how the FBI might deliver spyware electronically, this case appears to be the first to reveal how the technique is used in practice. The FBI did confirm in 2001 that it was working on a virus called Magic Lantern but hasn't said much about it since. The two other cases in which federal investigators were known to have used spyware--the Scarfo and Forrester cases--involved agents actually sneaking into offices to implant key loggers. <br /><br />An 18-page affidavit filed in federal court by FBI Agent Norm Sanders last month and obtained by CNET News.com claims details about the governmental spyware are confidential. The FBI calls its spyware a Computer and Internet Protocol Address Verifier, or CIPAV. <br /><br />"The exact nature of these commands, processes, capabilities, and their configuration is classified as a law enforcement sensitive investigative technique, the disclosure of which would likely jeopardize other ongoing investigations and/or future use of the technique," Sanders wrote. A reference to the operating system's registry indicates that CIPAV can target, as you might expect given its market share, Microsoft Windows. Other data sent back to the FBI include the operating system type and serial number, the logged-in user name, and the Web URL that the computer was "previously connected to." <br /><br />News.com has posted Sanders' affidavit and a summary of the CIPAV results that the FBI submitted to U.S. Magistrate Judge James Donohue. <br /><br />There have been hints in the past that the FBI has employed this technique. In 2004, an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that the bureau had used an "Internet Protocol Address Verifier" that was sent to a suspect via e-mail. <br /><br />But bloggers at the time dismissed it--in hindsight, perhaps erroneously--as the FBI merely using an embedded image in an HTML-formatted e-mail message, also known as a Web bug.hunky dory wwwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85264287791305498862009-05-08T07:12:00.000-06:002009-05-08T07:12:00.000-06:00Some more details have emerged about the spyware t...Some more details have emerged about the spyware that the FBI has used in a number of cases to gather evidence. It’s safe bet to say they use software like this for political surveillance and not just criminal investigations.<br /><br />What does the software do? According to Wired:<br /><br />The software’s primary utility appears to be in tracking down suspects that use proxy servers or anonymizing websites to cover their tracks.<br /><br />Naturally, quite a few radicals use anonymizers specifically to deter government surveillance. Wired also has more details:<br /><br />it gathers and reports a computer’s IP address; MAC address; open ports; a list of running programs; the operating system type, version and serial number; preferred internet browser and version; the computer’s registered owner and registered company name; the current logged-in user name and the last-visited URL.<br /><br />After sending the information to the FBI, the CIPAV settles into a silent “pen register” mode, in which it lurks on the target computer and monitors its internet use, logging the IP address of every server to which the machine connects.<br /><br />The documents shed some light on how the FBI sneaks the CIPAV onto a target’s machine, hinting that the bureau may be using one or more web browser vulnerabilities. In several of the cases outlined, the FBI hosted the CIPAV on a website, and tricked the target into clicking on a link.<br /><br />The Wired article suggests that the Feds routinely seek out search warrants in order to use this spyware, but given the continued expansion of state surveillance powers and their documented willingness to regularly break their own rules, this shouldn’t be assumed.<br /><br />One question to wonder is: if details on this spyware were to come to light, would non-US based security software vendors enable their programs to detect it?the spiderwebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69739442555220743622009-05-08T07:02:00.000-06:002009-05-08T07:02:00.000-06:00Maybe these boys have some strong PC skills but th...Maybe these boys have some strong PC skills but they should have learned that the feds have their own spyware that all the spyware detector software makers agreed to exclude. A few browser installs ago I had the bookmark detailing how the feds caught someone using a computer in Italy as a cutout to make threats online using this undetectable spyware. Even if these children are guilty throwing the kitchen sink at one or all of them is a bit Draconian. We all did dumb things when we were 13 but if they did phone in some bomb threats that was exponentially stupid, especially in a post 9/11 world.some web serfernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49272373030995371442009-05-08T00:15:00.000-06:002009-05-08T00:15:00.000-06:00I dunno. I did think she was a little too compose...I dunno. I did think she was a little too composed with all the makeup in the interview. Kind of like she was a outraged celebrity now that her kid was in jail somewhere, but she didn't seem to know where and wasn't that bothered about it.<br /><br />Further, when she said it's like being in a third world country, it struck me as odd. Germany or the Sov.Union is what I would have expected.<br /> <br />Regardless, like someone I knew who firebombed an abortion clinic or two, you are supposed to be incarcerated in your locality, not shipped off somewhere out of state. (In this case New Mexico instead of Washington.) But the feds evidently can imprison you anywhere in the country. Still Indiana is a long ways from N. Carolina. <br />It has something to do with due process, jury of your peers, etc. As the Russian proverb according to Solzhenitysn goes, 'when it happens to you, you'll know it's true'. <br />It will also be too late.Bob Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31904564640163820462009-05-07T23:44:00.000-06:002009-05-07T23:44:00.000-06:00That mother. What a liar! I hate her. "Sure, I kne...That mother. What a liar! I hate her. "Sure, I knew he was making prank calls and bomb threats, some of them were even funny, but he didn't make <B>this</B> particular bomb threat because we weren't home." <br /><br />And who comes out smelling like a rose? The State. Why we didn't use the Patriot Act, we would never do that, and put a juvenile in a cell with hardened criminals? We never!I Hate Bobby Flaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-9908859763181111532009-05-07T21:56:00.000-06:002009-05-07T21:56:00.000-06:00The copious placement of USA flags around the Lund...The copious placement of USA flags around the Lundeby home should have been our first red flag.<br /><br />Patriotism is indeed a scoundrel's last refuge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-25518217066104227732009-05-07T19:37:00.000-06:002009-05-07T19:37:00.000-06:00Indifference is accepted as Acceptance by the gove...Indifference is accepted as Acceptance by the government, until Citizens stand up and start to fight to restore our Rights in America, we will be slaves to the Police. I Don Cordell have been fighting this treason the last 2 years as an Independent Presidential candidate, and I'm afraid too many Americans are more interested in Ball Games than the treason coming their way. <br />We must wake up, and Restore America, not Change America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62092650294742117492009-05-07T19:33:00.000-06:002009-05-07T19:33:00.000-06:00http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-b...http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/<br /><br />Sigh...kids these days...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14166925402193655902009-05-07T17:29:00.000-06:002009-05-07T17:29:00.000-06:00Uh-oh. New update from Wired. Mom admits Ashton is...Uh-oh. New update from Wired. Mom admits Ashton is "Tyrone" - a notorious phone prankster who also ran a business, charging $5 a "pop" to call schools with fake bomb threats.<br />http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/teenage-bomb-threat-suspect-was-an-internet-prank-phone-call-star/<br /><br />"Lundeby confirmed that her son was known online as “Tyrone,” a celebrity in a prank-calling community that grew late last year out of the trouble-making “/b/” board on 4chan. Using the VOIP conferencing software Ventrilo, as many as 300 listeners would gather on a server run by Tyrone to listen to him and other amateur voice actors make often-crude and racist phone calls, some of which are archived on YouTube. The broadcasts were organized through websites like PartyVanPranks.com.<br /><br />A former fan of Tyrone’s work helped lead the police to Lundeby’s son after the boy allegedly moved beyond pranks this year and began accepting donations from students eager to miss a day of school. In exchange for a little money, Tyrone would phone in a bomb threat that would shutter the donor’s school for a day."<br /><br />You've been "had"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-89649778833969901912009-05-07T15:48:00.000-06:002009-05-07T15:48:00.000-06:00Mr. Grigg: Could you please ask Annette for a fax ...Mr. Grigg: Could you please ask Annette for a fax or scan of the search warrant? This would settle everything since the words "probable cause" will appear in the warrant if PC was indeed used. If good faith was used instead, those words will not appear and the FBI will indeed have leveraged PATRIOT Act powers in executing this raid.Claytonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09308733321681728868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8338341419723463022009-05-07T14:54:00.000-06:002009-05-07T14:54:00.000-06:00It is good that many did not jump to conclusions &...It is good that many did not jump to conclusions & be played like a puppet. That whole idea of, it is important to always hear the other side of the story before you make any conclusions, is so proved here, huh? And, WOW! to the description of fleeing the AirForce One fly by scare. That was very moving.<br /><br />Still, as a result, I have some ideas I want to run by you all.<br /><br />Is the FedGov trying to make a new organizational structure of the world with the FedGov at the top followed by man, woman, & child on an equal horizontal line below it, subservient to it? Does the FedGov place God & religion below them all? Is this to replace the current hierarchy where God is at the top followed vertically by individuals or the family structure of man, then woman, then child, then government? Is resistance to the new FedGov world organizational flow chart obedience to God? Not just for Christians, but for every follower of every religion, & even atheists? Are those who support the new FedGov organizational flow chart disobedient to God & to the rights of individuals? I’m just trying to sort things out here.<br /><br />The religious rants have been useful. The, tho shalt not kill slogans too. It has been perplexing. It is not accurate to use the word & meaning, kill, it is tho shalt not murder, as far as I can tell. A big difference, or are all Christians vegetarians? There is also another Biblical saying, something like, it is the highest honor to lay down ones life for another. Is it conditional to avoid murdering another in the process? Well, how is this done? Isn’t this what the U.S. armed forces are supposed to be based upon? To risk their lives to protect the lives & liberty of others without committing murder? And if so, does someone who works counter to that idea receive the lowest condemnation from God & man? If the FedGov is going to try & replace God in the hierarchy of how our society functions, then is it the highest honor to lay down ones life (read- resist with force, not jump in front of a bullet, because the next bullet makes its target) in defense of the liberty & freedom of others, no matter who they are? People are not just going out & laying down in traffic to lay down their lives, they are to resist with arms as our Constitution suggests. But ONLY if all other peaceful means fail. Is that how average Americans should see things?<br /><br />Peace & love to everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-42855670429336724482009-05-07T14:44:00.000-06:002009-05-07T14:44:00.000-06:00I don't know if Ashton Lundeby is guilty or not gu...I don't know if Ashton Lundeby is guilty or not guilty. But there is one thing I know for sure. America now has its very own version of the old USSR's Gulag Archipelago. There is no excuse for; suspending the writ of habeas corpus, establishing secret military courts and tribunals, establishing secret prisons and denying a defendent immediate access to counsel. The civil courts are functioning. Any defendent, no matter who he or she may be; has the right to counsel, has the right to a speedy hearing before a civil court and judge to determine if their arrest and detainment is lawful, and has the right to a speedy trial if that is necessary. The unPATRIOTic Act has no place in America. If it does, then we no longer live in a free republic composed of free men with god-given and constitutionally guaranteed rights; we live in a totalitarian dictatorship of slaves subject to the arbitrary whim of tyrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64815175670317243552009-05-07T14:05:00.000-06:002009-05-07T14:05:00.000-06:00will,
saw your post on LRC. i read the part abou...will,<br /><br />saw your post on LRC. i read the part about the "interstate commerce" clause. seems like the anti-federalists were right. the general welfare clause is being applied to everything, preamble or no.<br /><br />rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49221296396740826492009-05-07T12:33:00.000-06:002009-05-07T12:33:00.000-06:00Mom says they never cited the Patriot Act? (from t...Mom says they never cited the Patriot Act? (from the Wired article)<br /><br />"On Alex Jones, Lundeby seemed to more-or-less admit that the USA PATRIOT connection was something she dreamed up on her own.<br /><br /><B>Jones: And they said they are charging him under the Patriot Act, so –<br /><br />Lundeby: They’re not saying that, but that’s exactly what they’re doing.</B>Jones: Well, it’s in the newspaper.<br /><br />Lundeby: All their actions point towards that. But they don’t deny it either."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-75472001271405081882009-05-07T12:14:00.000-06:002009-05-07T12:14:00.000-06:00Frank -- see the May 7 update at the top of the pa...Frank -- see the May 7 update at the top of the page. Thanks!William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-41238683575949472332009-05-07T11:46:00.000-06:002009-05-07T11:46:00.000-06:00The little bastard is Tyrone. His BSing mom admitt...The little bastard is Tyrone. His BSing mom admitted this already. He has been making threats and crank calls for YEARS. He's broken tons of laws and just got what was coming to him. Using the Pat act was wrong, but he deserves jail time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40919617118518000232009-05-07T11:45:00.000-06:002009-05-07T11:45:00.000-06:00Does Status QuObama have anything to say about an ...Does Status QuObama have anything to say about an American child being lost in the American Gulag system? Ohh he hasn't recieved his marching orders from AIPAC and the bankers yet darn that change is slow in coming.2004B.O. (Before Obama)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2940782603699338542009-05-07T10:28:00.000-06:002009-05-07T10:28:00.000-06:00Will,
Keep in mind that Mike Nifong claimed he ha...Will,<br /><br />Keep in mind that Mike Nifong claimed he had a "slam dunk" case against the lacrosse players. If they have a confession, then keep in mind that a young child has been subjected to the kind of brutal interrogation that "terrorists" have become accustomed to receiving.<br /><br />I would doubt the veracity of any federal source. We already know that the feds usually lie, and I have to assume they are lying here.Bill Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-35446224914422513902009-05-07T10:26:00.000-06:002009-05-07T10:26:00.000-06:00Wired reported yesterday that the boy was NOT arre...Wired reported yesterday that the boy was NOT arrested, charged, etc. under the USA PATRIOT (sic) Act:<br /><br />http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/bloggers-tv-go-nuts-over-misleading-patriot-act-claim/<br /><br />Can you follow up, Mr. Grigg?Frankhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00084866159118318261noreply@blogger.com