tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post7269124383734456493..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: How the War will "Follow Us Home"William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14174819284878827082007-01-17T21:42:00.000-07:002007-01-17T21:42:00.000-07:00You're certainly on top of things over here! I wa...You're certainly on top of things over here! I was very much pleased to read your points pertaining to McVeigh, as I too have brought up his name in the past in regards to the seeds being planted within those who come back from this horror to a life of long lines, red tape and broken promises...the life of a veteran. <br /><br />I'm breaking away to find the piece in particular, because I feel it is so important to document the extent to which our insulated lives in bulk here in the USA tend to fight off recent history much more effectively than we do the common cold...<br /><br /><b>"The exploitation of our soldiers is what needs to be hollered about from coast to coast at the top of our lungs. The way it will probably be brought to everyone’s attention though is when some of these people who our government’s used and tossed out with the garbage start realizing what was done to them and get to feeling that Tim McVeigh wasn’t such a crazy guy after all. Say what you want about monster he was, we were all sure as hell listening to what he had to say after he blew it up, didn’t we? We were captivated by the interviews, and even though any rational person would see him as scum, what drove him crazy was right there for all of us to see, only it wasn’t us, so nobody cared. The same dynamic causing our apathetic view of the plight of these soldiers was how we all most likely viewed Ruby Ridge and the government’s denial of Gulf War Syndrome.<br /><br />After this war all bets are off. Get ready for it everyone, because unless these soldiers find themselves an advocate anytime soon, their lives are over whether they survive the war or not. If you’re putting your politics in front of the lives of those you claim to care about today, you could become one of their victims tomorrow." http://deadissue.com - 7/7/04</b> http://deadissue.com/archives/2004/07/07/what-about-the-troops/#more-16<br /><br />There are more, but you get the idea...I've believed in this future we're about to begin realizing for quite a while now, and part of me honestly thinks our society will shake it off, regardless of how many end up going this route...<br /><br />The "follow us home" mantra can be equated with hundreds (probably thousands) of bunk examples of jibberish leaders in the past have spouted to justify war...Europe most likely has enough in the mast millenia to explain just about everything behind what we've heard about this war since the beginning. <br /><br />I honestly believe that once the adjectives and venacular are removed, and the motives are boiled down to their base elements, our occupation in Iraq is a carbon copy of so many other instances in human history, that all of our (not meaning you and I...I'm talking about the hoopleheads) words are nothing more than entertainment and delusion. <br /><br />I'll be proud of the soldier who comes back and decides to go out with a bang depending on the who/what/when/why...of course, that'll be too much to expect, and instead it'll be women and children and workers and television ratings...<br /><br />Peace - DIdeadissue.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10613327553519455902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40453077286136836702007-01-17T15:53:00.000-07:002007-01-17T15:53:00.000-07:00Yep. I even alluded to this back in your It's a D...Yep. I even alluded to this back in your <A href="http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2006/11/its-droogs-world-after-all.html"> It's a Droog's World, After All</A> comment thread:<br /><br /><I>And about the cameraman laughing at the carnage as if it's a video game, I certainly deduce from this how a seemingly endless imperial war can eventually create prime candidates for mass-murder upon their return, either at the States disposal or their own psychotic reasons. That is, IF they physically survive. Mentally, however, is obviously another matter entirely.</I><br /><br />It would seem to me that there should indeed be some concern for how much discontent and anger, that inevitably follow wars of aggression, the <I>combat</I> vets may harbor upon their return. Given our accelerating cultural devolution along with the imperial war machine grinding onwards, we could indeed see the "war coming home" in a literal sense.<br /><br />The Vietnam War, Korean War, and other past imperial conflicts of the post-WWII era also had vets harboring discontent and anger. The difference, however, is that the culture (even among the youth) still held, for the most part, to a Judeo-Christian value system and worldview, or at the very least a semblance thereof.<br /><br />Today, unfortunately, that's most certainly not the case.dixiedoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09845646940134894119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49701500258647259992007-01-17T05:30:00.000-07:002007-01-17T05:30:00.000-07:00On war coming home:
I am less convinced that the ...On war coming home:<br /><br />I am less convinced that the fact that our soldiers are abroad killing foreigners in a war of aggression will come home killers than I am convinced that those they imprison and the relatives of those killed or maimed will nurse a long-standing sense of vengeance against the United States. <br /><br />It's not unlike our first "war on terror" back in 1919-20, where a dragnet was sent out against communists, and ensnared mostly innocent people. The liberal Democratic Montana Senator Thomas J. Walsh correctly concluded back then that "The indignities and outrages suffered by the victims, the majority of whome were released, will rankle in their breasts until their dying day, and their friends and relatives will share with them the conviction that justice 'for a season bade the world farewell.'"<br /><br />We're breeding more terrorism by nursing a justifiable and understandable sense of grievance in the Middle East.Tom Eddlemhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04160242280348361622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-56931788892708921282007-01-16T19:26:00.000-07:002007-01-16T19:26:00.000-07:00Congratulations. Its a nice blog you are keeping h...Congratulations. Its a nice blog you are keeping here. Keep it up and all the best.If you have some time, do check my blog and don't forget to leave a little comment for me while you are there.M.D. Creekmorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08433630939378291586noreply@blogger.com