tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post7134542526957343418..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Lights, Camera -- Entrapment! Homeland Security Theater in Portland William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36385847959444367402013-01-15T05:04:02.206-07:002013-01-15T05:04:02.206-07:00That’s right, Mr. Grigg, but when it’s convenient ...That’s right, Mr. Grigg, but when it’s convenient for us, we put ourselves under the Law – why do we insist that if the Ten Commandments do not hang in classrooms and public buildings, then we “have kicked God out of the public square?” I daresay God will not be kicked anywhere by anyone. And the Ten Commandments are listed elsewhere in the New Testament, but the two most important things in the NT (as I see it) are man’s relationship to Christ and his love for his fellow man. Not only love others as you love yourself, but 1st Corinthians 10:24 and Philippians 2:3 say to seek the other’s well being first and let each esteem others better than himself.<br /><br />The government has weighed in on imprecatory prayer. (Finally). The headline from USA Today is <b>“Praying for God to hurt someone is not illegal, judge rules.”</b> “Is it okay to ask God to do harm to another person? The theology of such ‘imprecatory prayer’ may be a matter of debate, but a Dallas judge has ruled it is legal, at least as long as no one is actually threatened or harmed.” http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-04-06/pray-to-hurt-others-mikey-weinstein/54084880/1Yossarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03276241501396117972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58297865855830579252013-01-14T07:19:02.316-07:002013-01-14T07:19:02.316-07:00Yossarian, I'm of the opinion that when Jesus,...Yossarian, I'm of the opinion that when Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, commanded His followers to pray for their enemies (Matt. 5:44), whatever purpose was served by imprecatory prayer came to an end. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-54642813084234049772013-01-14T01:33:58.985-07:002013-01-14T01:33:58.985-07:00I remember reading this article, Imprecatory Praye...I remember reading this article, Imprecatory Prayer: The Intercessor’s Elephant Gun, after 9/11:<br /><br />“Radical Islam is incorrigible, period. So, face it and embrace it. We are not going to convert or appease these cats. We have nothing they want. There is nothing to negotiate. They want us exterminated. Capisce?<br /><br />“That said, what do we, Christians in particular, do when faced with an implacable radical enemy?… I, for one, will not take a passive stance against this aggressive enemy. <br /><br />“You cannot be lame and win this game with these guys. So, as a Christian, I suggest the following:<br /><br /><b>“One:</b> Back President Bush and his aggressive armed attitude against terrorists and terror supporting nations. Make that the main focal point for your vote during the next election. Picture this when you step into the voting booth this November: some fluctuating, wait-on-the-U.N. type of guy in the Senate while one of Osama’s droogies is arming a nuclear suitcase in your back yard. Take that image with you to the polls. <i>[Here is all the proof I need that the religious right sees the president, any president, as God’s emissary on earth.]</i><br /><br />“As people of faith, dust off and use what’s afforded to the believer within the Old and New Testaments, namely the imprecatory prayers. <br /><br />“What is an imprecatory prayer? <br /><br />“It is a prayer asking God to crush a clear enemy of His, an enemy which is an <b>aggressive adversary of freedom and peace loving people.</b> Yes, Mr. and Mrs. Precious Moments Figurine Collector, the Bible is filled with maledictions prayed by saints and speedily answered by God against violently impenitent enemies of liberty and righteousness.<br /><br />“So, start tossing imprecatory prayers heavenward and watch what God does to militant implacable Islam. The celestial spanking of terrorists is no big deal for God <i>[and His Presidential Co-pilot.]</i> And our prayers could save thousands of our soldiers’ lives, our citizens’ lives and the lives of innocent, moderate Muslims and others who get caught in the freak boys’ villainous crossfire.”<br /><br />Are these people ever embarrassed? If God started killing all His enemies, where would He start? It has struck me over the years that Muslims, our implacable enemies who want us dead act more Christlike than Christians.<br /><br />By the way, what is the purpose of the imprecatory prayers? Does it have any purpose in the New Testament other than imploring God and His President to kill people?Yossarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03276241501396117972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91375909408181345832013-01-13T09:28:25.420-07:002013-01-13T09:28:25.420-07:00I'm refinancing my house and one of the 29 for...I'm refinancing my house and one of the 29 forms I had to sign was the <b>PATRIOT ACT INFORMATION DISCLOSURE.</b><br /><br />To help the government fight the funding of terrorism and money laundering activities, Federal law requires all financial institutions to obtain, verify, and record information that identifies each person who opens an account.<br /><br /><b>What this means for you:</b> When you open an account, we will ask for your name, address, date of birth, and other information that will allow us to identify you. We may also ask to see your driver’s license or other identifying documents. <br /><br />I/we acknowledge that I/we received a copy of this disclosure.<br /><br />Well, looks like George Washington got his prayer answered after all:<br /><br />The “Earnest Prayer” of General George Washington at the Disbanding of the Continental Army, June 14, 1783<br /><br />I now make it my earnest prayer that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection; <b>that he would incline the hearts of the citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to government...</b><br /><br />Some of His Highness' language is in dispute, but no one doubts or even gives a second thought to his "prayer" for subordination and obedience to God's Government on earth. <br /><br />This is from GW’s Farewell Speech, 1796:<br /><br />The UNITY OF GOVERNMENT, which constitutes you one people, IS ALSO NOW DEAR TO YOU. It is justly so; for it is a main PILLAR IN THE EDIFICE of your real INDEPENDENCE; the SUPPORT of your TRANQUILITY at home; your PEACE abroad; of your SAFETY; of your PROSPERITY in every shape; of that very LIBERTY, which you so highly prize. But as it is easy to foresee, that, from different causes, and from different quarters, much pains will be taken, many artifices employed, to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth; as this is the point in your political fortress against which the batteries of internal and external (but mostly internal) enemies will be most constantly and actively (though often covertly and insidiously) directed it is of infinite moment, that you should properly estimate the IMMENSE VALUE OF YOUR NATIONAL UNION TO YOUR COLLECTIVE AND INDIVIDUAL HAPPINESS; that you should CHERISH A CORDIAL, HABITUAL, AND IMMOVABLE ATTACHMENT TO IT; ACCUSTOMING YOURSELVES TO THINK AND SPEAK OF IT AS OF THE PALLADIUM OF YOUR POLITICAL SAFETY AND PROSPERITY; WATCHING FOR ITS PRESERVATION WITH JEALOUS ANXIETY; DISCOUNTENANCING WHATEVER MAY SUGGEST EVEN A SUSPICION, THAT IT CAN IN ANY EVENT BE ABANDONED, AND INDIGNANTLY FROWNING UPON THE FIRST DAWNING OF EVERY ATTEMPT TO ALIENATE ANY PORTION OF OUR COUNTRY FROM THE REST, or to enfeeble the SACRED TIES which now link together the various parts… <b>Respect for its authority, compliance with its Laws, acquiescence in its measures, are duties enjoined by the fundamental maxims of true Liberty.</b> The basis of our political systems is the right of the people to make and to alter their Constitutions of Government. <b>But the Constitution which at any time exists, ’till changed by an explicit and authentic act of the whole People, is sacredly obligatory upon all. The very idea of the power and the right of the People to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government.</b><br /><br />God said the rich will rule over the poor, no ifs ands or buts. I hate to keep going on and on about GW, but I hate him and I hope he suffered during his illness, what with no FDA approved medicine, just leeches and no anesthesia and nobody by his side but that plug of a fat wife.Yossarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03276241501396117972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-33325211178785652452013-01-10T17:34:15.838-07:002013-01-10T17:34:15.838-07:00Will, are you familiar with the case of Khalifah a...Will, are you familiar with <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/26/taliban-sympathiser-arrest-fbi-informant-tactics" rel="nofollow">the case of Khalifah al-Akili</a>? He was arrested "<em>just days after he had sent out an email to friends and local Muslim civil rights groups complaining that he believed he was the target of an FBI 'entrapment' sting.</em>"Frankhttp://icymi.conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8319901256176958622013-01-09T17:11:52.104-07:002013-01-09T17:11:52.104-07:00And yet the average Amoricon fleshwaste would read...And yet the average Amoricon fleshwaste would read (or more likely have read to them) this description of events, shrug, and say "well, better they stage these events than have the real thing happen 'over here.'" IOW, "our bastards" can commit all the crimes they want, with impunity, as long as it's only "heathen towelheads" who suffer the consequences.<br /><br />Once again, we're thoroughly screwed.liberranterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31779617793648274452013-01-09T03:22:07.447-07:002013-01-09T03:22:07.447-07:00But there is no reason what so ever why the United...<i>But there is no reason what so ever why the United States should have Somalis, Saudis, Afghans, Iraqis, or any other Middle Eastern/Southwest Asian here. The Feebs are importing these 3rd world savages then using them to help destroy the freedoms of Traditional Americans.</i><br /><br />Who are the "savages" in the Mohamud case? Looks to me like it's your "Traditional Americans" (i.e. whites), not anyone from Africa.JdLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63625180093577770592013-01-08T15:16:34.750-07:002013-01-08T15:16:34.750-07:00We get the government we are willing to tolerate.
...We get the government we are willing to tolerate.<br /><br />jkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76588608973484060652013-01-08T09:38:14.208-07:002013-01-08T09:38:14.208-07:00Unfucking believable so in the FBIS and CIAs way o...Unfucking believable so in the FBIS and CIAs way of thinking its "we don't get problems fast enough lets make some"<br /><br />idiots create all this crap and for what cause they don't like actual good policy.<br /><br />as for the poster above sir please do not call them savages they simply people used and abused by shit doctrines and the rulers keep them aliveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1216847015838987842013-01-08T06:40:21.154-07:002013-01-08T06:40:21.154-07:00The FBI should not be entrapping people like this....The FBI should not be entrapping people like this. But there is no reason what so ever why the United States should have Somalis, Saudis, Afghans, Iraqis, or any other Middle Eastern/Southwest Asian here. The Feebs are importing these 3rd world savages then using them to help destroy the freedoms of Traditional Americans. Chris Mallorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40191623556031943322013-01-07T20:18:31.361-07:002013-01-07T20:18:31.361-07:00Punks.Punks.Mr. Mcgranorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12851136550476241757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-39329231764966830732013-01-07T18:19:01.825-07:002013-01-07T18:19:01.825-07:00The entirely "staged" incident in Portla...The entirely "staged" incident in Portland was quite cynically arranged so that the city would be brought back into the FBI's manipulative orbit. Federal Bureau of Incitement would be a better moniker.MoTnoreply@blogger.com