tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post6472918460087047072..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Turning "Mr. Hand" into "Mr. Fist" William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51400220680002785712009-02-27T21:48:00.000-07:002009-02-27T21:48:00.000-07:00Mr Grigg I just wanted to bring this to your atten...Mr Grigg I just wanted to bring this to your attention.<BR/>A 15 year old girl in Deputies custody at jail well you can read and watch the video. This is a sick country and I have always enjoyed your writings and your courage but I frankly fear that the GOOD GUYS are losing BIG TIME.<BR/>Only our guns stand between us and total Communism.<BR/><BR/>http://www.kval.com/news/40408157.html?video=YHI&t=a<BR/>http://www.kval.com/news/40449107.html?video=YHI&t=a<BR/>http://www.kval.com/news/40449107.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-38883311394467589342009-02-24T23:25:00.000-07:002009-02-24T23:25:00.000-07:00I admit I had to go to a dictionary site in order ...I admit I had to go to a dictionary site in order to understand your s***-eating grin joke. While I was there, I noticed that the word of the day just happened to be "peculate".<BR/><BR/>And it occurred to me: all that time I thought people where blaming speculators, but it turns out that they meant <A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peculator" REL="nofollow">Congress</A>. See, many years ago, as a reckless teenager, I enjoyed some impromptu shooting with a friend. Neither of us had hearing protection. Sometimes it's difficult to hear a soft consonant such as the letter 'S', so I'm in the habit of assuming it's there even when I can't hear it.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, our pro se bailout continues. Still trying to figure out how it is I will be financially better off if I lose money, though.TJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76799032743900430472009-02-24T04:26:00.000-07:002009-02-24T04:26:00.000-07:00Lawl, Lara.You're heart is mostly in the right pla...Lawl, Lara.<BR/><BR/>You're heart is mostly in the right place, but your mind is way off course.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I kind of agree with you, at least on this issue. The people who frequent these kinds of blogs are the ones who will acquiesce to any pressure put on them by oppressive government representatives. Many will not stand up when the time comes. I'm always a little surprised when I read so many comments, on blogs and news sites, that are nothing more than complaining. Complaining like a coward will get you no where. Planning, and action will get you somewhere. To paraphrase Boston, the reason they bitch and moan about every new little assault on their freedom is because secretly, deep down, they know they will give in - they know they'll redraw the line behind them, and continue to back up. Draw the line, and when it's crossed, put those plans (you know, the ones that you've had for a long time and have been updating constantly due to new information) into action.<BR/><BR/>But, <B><I>No Fort Sumters. No Fort Sumters. <BR/><BR/>No <BR/><BR/>Fort <BR/><BR/>Sumters</I></B><BR/><BR/>About McVeigh. I don't use the term 'terrorist', because I'm sure at LEAST one of us here will be given that label sometime in the near future. Neurolinguistic programming at it's best, or worst. (You know something about that, too, don't you, Lara? - Masonic Phallic Worship cult? No need to insult people's religions). McVeigh was not a patriot to be admired. He was a moron who was duped into the bomb plot and set up to take the fall, so as to implicate some Iraqis, militia guys, and white supremacists, or any combination that the rogue element would decide is the most beneficial for the state. He was an idiot. Even if he HAD done the whole truck-bomb thing, he still would have been responsible for killing many innocent children. Oops. Guess what that makes him. A monster. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and he's still alive, eh? Cui bono?Pat H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76716376402416199832009-02-23T17:41:00.000-07:002009-02-23T17:41:00.000-07:00AleG, I also cringe at those who refuse to make a ...AleG, <BR/><BR/>I also cringe at those who refuse to make a stand. But stands (other than petitions, arguments, etc.) may only morally be made against active, real and present threats to the life, limb and property of innocent people. That's just a fact.<BR/><BR/> -Sans AuthoritasSans Authoritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49757290463138421162009-02-23T15:36:00.000-07:002009-02-23T15:36:00.000-07:00Where is the anti-war movermtn?Where is the anti-war movermtn?Mimihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15017592585596334313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-7663022918366613132009-02-22T18:18:00.000-07:002009-02-22T18:18:00.000-07:00Sans Authoritas,I don't entirely disagree, but I d...Sans Authoritas,<BR/><BR/>I don't entirely disagree, but I do cringe at what appears to be the rejection by nearly all who profess belief in Liberty to making an actual stand against authoritarianism, ever. At this point in US history, I make the odds out to be about 80:20 that you will ultimately need to show the courage of your convictions with more than words, or give up on all of those convictions without a whimper...<BR/><BR/>-AleGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-70081205236622102962009-02-22T07:42:00.000-07:002009-02-22T07:42:00.000-07:00I've been saying this for years to anyone who'll l...I've been saying this for years to anyone who'll listen, but nobody is. No different than lawyers, insurance agents, doctors, etc. All of them bleed the private sector dry. They produce nothing, yet continue to prosper. Pretty soon the only jobs will be government ones, and then the end comes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-84716788653521618592009-02-22T06:58:00.000-07:002009-02-22T06:58:00.000-07:00Will,Just checkin' in...mongol Doc Ellis 124Will,<BR/><BR/>Just checkin' in...<BR/><BR/>mongol Doc Ellis 124Doc Ellishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08543939658083915285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28735712930280782242009-02-21T21:58:00.000-07:002009-02-21T21:58:00.000-07:00Do you actually think the Chinese and Japanese (th...<I>Do you actually think the Chinese and Japanese (those who hold our debt) are going to give two &*%!# about what some stupid contract says about benefits owed etc.. to some former beureuacratic surface feeder. Ha Ha I don't think so. He/she will suddenly find themselves destitute like the average American they spent their career bleeding.</I><BR/><BR/>You're absolutely correct. The most worrisome thing about this is that these people have been conditioned to think of themselves as an ueberclass, entitled to the perquisites that they've accrued at our expense. One wonders to what extraordinarily predatory and violent lengths they will resort in order to ensure that they retain something of these even as the welfare state they've come to depend upon implodes.liberranterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10229838639945492862009-02-21T02:21:00.000-07:002009-02-21T02:21:00.000-07:00Mr. Grigg (2:11 PM)Let me know when you grow a pai...Mr. Grigg (2:11 PM)<BR/><BR/>Let me know when you grow a pair of character balls to replace your $&CFB marshmallows you simply use to perpetuate the Masonic Phallic Worship cult. <BR/><BR/>Let me point out that Mr. McVeigh's requested defense was: POLITICAL NECESSITY, BASED UPON SELF DEFENCE AND LEGITIMATE RETALIATION TO GOVERMENT LAWLESSNESS.<BR/><BR/>The STATE (with support from the slaves and cannon fodder against the MSM manufactured 'face of evil) REFUSED HIM EVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO STATE HIS CASE ON THAT DEFENCE --- CAUSE IT WOULD HAVE LOST; AND HE WOULD PROBABLY BE YOUR PRESIDENT TODAY; IF WHAT the American people had wanted was a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. But the American people did NOT WANT A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC; they prefer to remain slaves and cannon fodder to their OLIGARCHS DEMOCKERY. <BR/><BR/><I>I'm confident to the point of certainty that nobody who understands and agrees with the principles espoused in my blog would be party to mass murder. </I><BR/><BR/>No, if your blog is not about a constitutional republic, and the right to a free and fair trial, including for CONSTITUTIONAL TERRORISTS (WHICH JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE FOUNDING FATHER WAS); then indeed, this shall be my last posting to this blog of two faced coward hypocrits. <BR/><BR/>As for your Masonic Phallic worship $lave and Cannon Fodder Deity -- you are welcome to the fucking moron imbecile. <BR/><BR/>Take Care, I won't be back. <BR/><BR/>----------<BR/><BR/>Sans Authoritas (7:33 PM)<BR/><BR/>Mr. McVeigh acted under DECLARATION OF WAR principles. If you have read a thing he wrote, or what he stood for - you would know that. <BR/><BR/>But no, instead you base your information on what his enemies said; not on what he personally said. <BR/><BR/>And sad thing: HIS ENEMIES (the one's you believe, instead of him personally) ARE THE ONE'S WHO ARE ONLY TOO HAPPY TO ENSLAVE YOU, AS THEIR SLAVE AND CANNON FODDER! <BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>Anyway, apologies my thoughts were so subversive, that they actually required you to think, and to grow a bit of a character. I clearly was misinformed about the quality of individuals at this 'libertarian' (now that's fucking hilarious -- but at least I came to hear your opinions from your own mouths, didn't just take other people's opinions about you as truth) blog. <BR/><BR/>Take care, and I shall not be bothering your sensitive ignorant little minds again.<BR/><BR/>LaraAndrea Murrhteynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13455575591213217060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-87810609491805484242009-02-21T00:03:00.000-07:002009-02-21T00:03:00.000-07:00sans authoritas,well, the assault on waco was plan...sans authoritas,<BR/><BR/>well, the assault on waco was planned from that building, but that does not make it right. but God did say we reap what we sow. at Waco, about 80 died. in OC, 168 died. either way, God does not like ugly, and Clinton still has blood on his hands. i hope he, and everyone else involved in that massacre, gets right with God before he dies. somehow i don't think he will, but i hope so.<BR/><BR/>what i fear most, is the precedent that waco set.<BR/><BR/>rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-59052499867942739472009-02-20T20:33:00.000-07:002009-02-20T20:33:00.000-07:00Andrea, simmah down, now. Simmah... down... now. A...Andrea, simmah down, now. Simmah... down... now. <BR/><BR/>As Mr. Grigg said, if McVeigh did what they said he did, he was a mass-murderer, not a hero. Those mindless bureaucrats at that building were not responsible for Waco or Ruby Ridge. They're just swilling from their troughs filled with our tax dollars. They did not pose grave and direct threats, nor were they even involved with the planning. What McVeigh did was a terrorist act. Decent human beings don't do what he did. Animalistic statist thugs do. <BR/><BR/>You are indeed laying it on thick. Too thick, it appears. <BR/><BR/> -Sans AuthoritasSans Authoritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-80675800464147891712009-02-20T18:12:00.000-07:002009-02-20T18:12:00.000-07:00Sometimes I feel that Homeland (IN)Security monito...Sometimes I feel that Homeland (IN)Security monitors sites such as these and sends agent provactuers to write stupid things. - That aside I can honestly say these examples of unabashed paristical plunder are nothing short of illustrations of an Empire in its death throes. Do you actually think the Chinese and Japanese (those who hold our debt) are going to give two &*%!# about what some stupid contract says about benefits owed etc.. to some former beureuacratic surface feeder. Ha Ha I don't think so. He/she will suddenly find themselves destitute like the average American they spent their career bleeding. The Bible confirms this : "The borrower is servant to the lender" In this case the borrower is the US govt that has for the last 30 years propped up a life style for its employees that cannot be sustained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-15065041800067007492009-02-20T15:11:00.000-07:002009-02-20T15:11:00.000-07:00Leaving aside the fact that the Murrah Building wa...Leaving aside the fact that the Murrah Building wasn't brought down by a fertilizer-filled Ryder Truck, I'm constrained to point out that what Mr. McVeigh (without the "Others Unknown" who aided him)was convicted of was <I>not</I> self-defense, revolution, or legitimate retaliation for government lawlessness: It was mass murder.<BR/><BR/>I'm confident to the point of certainty that nobody who understands and agrees with the principles espoused in my blog would be party to mass murder. <BR/><BR/>It's also necessary to point out that while I'm not terribly restrictive in moderating the comment list, I do require that contributors eschew blasphemy. You can write practically anything you wish in reply to or criticism of my opinions, personality, taste in popular music, or haircut, and I'm even willing to abide a certain level of vulgarity, but leave The Deity out of things. Call it an archaic superstition, if you please.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10769215966989348572009-02-20T14:49:00.000-07:002009-02-20T14:49:00.000-07:00These pensions will NEVER be paid. Much like so ma...These pensions will NEVER be paid. Much like so many other things in the USA, the entire public pensions system is a fraud. Almost all of them have lost 20 to 40 percent in just the last 12 months - and predictably, the govts, large and small have reacted by coming up with new schemes to rip-off the productive citizens. Celente predicts the beginning of tax revolts in 2009 and I agree.<BR/><BR/>The time will be coming shortly when the unemployment & homelessness rates will be so high that the govt will be forced to chose between feeding hungry rioting former middle class citizens, or paying these pensions.<BR/><BR/>The most dangerous man in the world is the one with nothing left to lose - when enough people get to the end of their ropes, starting later this year, that's when we see the violence beginning to start, IMO.<BR/><BR/>kochevnikAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-5741259824524530322009-02-20T14:00:00.000-07:002009-02-20T14:00:00.000-07:00As I wrote to Mr. McVeigh before his faked executi...As I wrote to Mr. McVeigh before his faked execution; <BR/><BR/>Depression is only Anger without Enthusiasm<BR/><BR/>Appears the issues McVeigh had the vision and foresight to see, because instead of spending his time watching teevee, and breeding a brood of brainwashed publicly educated moron imbecile slaves and cannon fodder, for the Phallic Masonic Breed, Slaves Breed Gov... he was educating himself about what was really happening... and he objected. <BR/><BR/>And when he objected with his fellow John Doe #3 Special Forces Sgt. conspirators; and sent the US Goverment a little 'message', well the debt slaves, demanded his public crucifixion, and boy did they enjoy their crucifixion pornography snuff film... [They are so 'awake' they don't even know McVeigh's execution was faked; how that happened, nor why!!]<BR/><BR/>So, when they had an opportunity to support a Patriot, who publicly took issue with the direction of the US Fascist Goverment; they instead crucified him. <BR/><BR/>And now, they are in the direct firing line, and all of a sudden waking up, to realities Mr. McVeigh was aware of over 13 years ago! <BR/><BR/>So, I wonder how long it shall take these patient 'patriots' allegedly angry with their goverment; to wake up to the reality that; Timothy McVeigh's actions on 19 April 1995; were DEMANDED, AS THE DUTY OF PATRIOTS, BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS, AGAINST A GOVERMENT THAT HAS BEEN DELIVERING A TRAIN OF ABUSES.... IN BLACK AND WHITE IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. WHAT MCVEIGH DID WAS HIS GODDAMN FUCKING CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY, AGAINST AN OPPRESSIVE GOVERMENT! <BR/><BR/>Anyone here bought their fertilizer yet; or rented their Rhyder Truck? <BR/><BR/>When people wake up as to the difference between real brutally honest leaders, with cannon balls; as opposed to the politically correct two faced hypocrits with marshamallows, who promise them all the tinsels of the nanny welfare warfare state; then they may have realized that the events of 19 April 1995, provided Americans with the greatest opportunity for the greatest constitutional conversation since 4 July 1776. <BR/><BR/>Needless to say, 99.9% of Americans were, and still are; well incubated in their little debt enslaved, breed enslaved, politically correct enslaved, energy cocoons, that their Masonic Phallic $lave and Cannon Fodder Breeding Big Brother Matrix Masters are milking to the hilt.<BR/><BR/>LaraAndrea Murrhteynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13455575591213217060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64701463955454338982009-02-20T12:04:00.000-07:002009-02-20T12:04:00.000-07:00All hail the new Soviet where everything is run (i...All hail the new Soviet where everything is run (incompetently) by NGOs and an unelected class of professional bureaucrats. College educations won't be needed just learn how to game the system and get that snout in the trough before someone beats you to it!weimar ussanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-11271503791376994192009-02-20T11:12:00.000-07:002009-02-20T11:12:00.000-07:00Anon 10:24 - Don't despair; you're part of an agen...Anon 10:24 - <BR/><BR/>Don't despair; you're part of an agency that at least <B><I>tries</I></B>, and sometimes actually succeeds in providing a real service that people want and use, albeit much less efficiently than any private sector competitor. At least you could find gainful employment in a competing entity (e.g., FEDEX, UPS) if you so desire or needed to. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately for the "employees" of most other government bureaucracies, their "employers" cannot be reformed or rebuilt into anything remotely resembling a productive, profitable,or useful enterprise. Those individuals without the skills or gumption to transition successfully to jobs in the private sector that demand actual performance under standards of quality and efficiency are just going to be, well, "screwed."liberranterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00555275410576294081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13579445319902534922009-02-20T04:29:00.000-07:002009-02-20T04:29:00.000-07:00Will, every day you don't write one of your delici...Will, every day you don't write one of your deliciously infuriating columns is a wasteland. Keep it up and don't ever change.Puck T. Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11165510652453834268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-38146889704106557622009-02-19T23:24:00.000-07:002009-02-19T23:24:00.000-07:00Mr. Grieg, I'm saddened to write to say I'm one of...Mr. Grieg, I'm saddened to write to say I'm one of these leeches you wrote about. I'm a 24 year clerk with the Post Office.<BR/><BR/>I've written many times how I feel the Post Office should be a private entity, with no "help" from daddy government. I wish to let you know about one program that you may or may not know about, but I wish to tell you.<BR/><BR/>There's a provision in the law that allows people who are enrolled in the Federal Employee Retirement System,(FERS) who retire at their minimum retirement age(could be 55) with 30 years of service, to receive a supplemental payment which is equal to 70 to 80% of what they would receive at age 62 from Social Security. <BR/><BR/>Hope this makes sense to you. I mean it's nonsense, but thought I'd mention it for your knowledge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-66451591024583167482009-02-19T22:57:00.000-07:002009-02-19T22:57:00.000-07:00i had to stop reading and post this...who came up ...i had to stop reading and post this...<BR/><BR/>who came up with the stupid idea that taxpayers should pay for a person's retirement/pension?!!! this ain't right. i like how boston t. party put it (for those in the military) if you get hurt on the job, and leave permanently wounded, then you should get something for your trouble, but if not, you should get nothing. i agree with him. however, i think i'm alone in my field.<BR/><BR/>rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-25020187735456244692009-02-19T21:57:00.000-07:002009-02-19T21:57:00.000-07:00Spocko (wanna play some Fizzbin?) -- Miss Mercer i...Spocko (wanna play some Fizzbin?) -- Miss Mercer is a brilliant person and a lovely lady, but my time belongs entirely to my ravishing wife of 12 years, and the children we've had together! <BR/><BR/>I should point out that some time ago, before the, ahem, <I>heroes</I> running <B>The New American</B> and its sponsoring organization fed me and my family to the wolves, I corresponded with Miss Mercer in an effort to get her on board as a TNA contributor. She was one of a dozen or so reasonably well-known libertarian-leaning writers I sought out in a desperate attempt to deepen our talent pool and broaden our appeal. <BR/><BR/>To judge from what's going on over at TNA's website (my life subscription, like my life membership, were thoughtfully terminated when I was canned, so I haven't seen the print version in years), the folks in charge have, ah, spared every effort to expand their roster of contributors.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73319428378216435162009-02-19T20:24:00.000-07:002009-02-19T20:24:00.000-07:00"It is a veritable pinata of plunder made plump wi..."It is a veritable pinata of plunder made plump with plentiful perks and payouts to various Democratic Party-aligned parasites. "<BR/><BR/>You've been hanging our with Ilana Mercer too much.Bearded Spockhttp://mises.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-68909754778151714322009-02-19T17:36:00.000-07:002009-02-19T17:36:00.000-07:00I find your lack of faith disturbing...I find your lack of faith disturbing...Jim O'Connornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12479779667192914082009-02-19T16:58:00.000-07:002009-02-19T16:58:00.000-07:00ACORN is getting its billions.Every single leftist...ACORN is getting its billions.<BR/>Every single leftist special interest is making a killing on this bill which <B>NO ONE READ</B> before voting for it.<BR/><BR/>Sam Kinison was vulgar but his humor was more reality based than 99% of the political commentators on NBC and PBS and the rest of the TelScreeners.<BR/><BR/>MiniTru is telling the sheeple what reality is and this won't stop until the show folds.<BR/><BR/>America is SUCKING big time.<BR/><BR/>Everywhere you turn, if it isn't RAHM about guns:<BR/>Rahm Israel Emanuel: Gun Owners are Terrorists<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vp7f1QKYmg<BR/><BR/>It is Obama giving Rahm control over the CENSUS.<BR/><BR/>Or Schumer SMILING SO BROADLY, which always is an indicator that America's patriots are in for big doodoo.<BR/><BR/>This is an interesting story, anybody remember FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION?! <BR/>http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/feb/09021905.html<BR/><BR/>OKLAHOMA CITY, February 19, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An Oklahoma City police officer last week pulled over a truck displaying a sign that read "Abort Obama, not the unborn," confiscated the sign, and reported the driver to Secret Service.<BR/><BR/>The police officer said he had interpreted driver Hal "Chip" Harrison's sign as a threat to President Obama's life.<BR/><BR/>"I pulled over, knowing I hadn't done anything wrong," Harrison said in a recent phone interview with the McClatchy-Tribune. The officer informed him that the sign was the reason he had stopped Harrison.<BR/><BR/>"It's not meant to be a threat, it's a statement about abortion," said Harrison, who is pro-life. "I asked the officer, 'Do you know what abort means?' He said, 'Yeah, it means to kill.' I said, 'No, it means to remove or terminate.'"<BR/><BR/>The policeman then confiscated the sign and informed Harrison he would be subject to an investigation as a possible threat to the president.<BR/><BR/>"I thought, 'this is something from Nazi Germany, not in Oklahoma,'" Harrison told the Associated Press (AP).<BR/><BR/>Some time later, Harrison says he received a call from the Secret Service saying <B>they were at his house to "make sure I wasn't a part of any hate groups." </B> Harrison came home and allowed the agents to walk through the house. The agents reportedly questioned Harrison for about half an hour before leaving, convinced that there was no threat.Winston Smithhttp://gunbanobama.com/noreply@blogger.com