tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post519848461067144357..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Either Praise the Police, or Shut Up William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-13250455457106460782016-12-24T00:05:14.681-07:002016-12-24T00:05:14.681-07:00At what point was it established that criticizing ...At what point was it established that criticizing people who are supposedly our <i>servants</i> is a form of bigotry?<br /><br />It's probably gratuitous to point this out, but in the early 1970s, the Police Foundation funded a detailed study in Kansas City to examine the impact of police patrol on the rate of violent and property-related crime. That study determined that there is <i>no</i> measurable benefit. Similarly, there is a long string of court cases establishing the legal principle that the police have no enforceable duty to protect individual citizens from criminal violence. <br /><br />As an institution, law enforcement exists to protect those who prey on our property rights -- namely, the political class. In that capacity they are owed neither respect nor gratitude. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14336705516436678012016-12-22T12:32:01.671-07:002016-12-22T12:32:01.671-07:00All who hate cops and law makers should shut the h...All who hate cops and law makers should shut the hell up up and shove their bigotry up their asses. We have laws and police for good reason. Without them, crime would run amok. Besides, I'm tired of troublemakers running in the world. And so, I wish that everyone would follow good rules without question forever.Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-71897887388985371862014-10-25T21:30:55.367-06:002014-10-25T21:30:55.367-06:00Mr. Hardesty -- I appreciate your work, and I'...Mr. Hardesty -- I appreciate your work, and I'll be in touch. Thank you.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43535459148393897042014-10-25T15:39:15.010-06:002014-10-25T15:39:15.010-06:00Read your analysis of policing in Yakima. We helpe...Read your analysis of policing in Yakima. We helped organize a DoJ investigation into Portland, Oregon police; and the City now moves forward under a Settlement Agreement. We anticipate hosting a regional convening on civilian authority and police accountability that will include Seattle and Spokane. Was wondering whether you had relationships in Yakima we might network among. Best way to contact us is through the response form at our blog:<br />http://www.consulthardesty.com/about-2/rdhR D Hardestyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07086771345621272408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69470472587671833682014-10-24T10:07:02.262-06:002014-10-24T10:07:02.262-06:00Nick, you need this: American Policing and the Com...Nick, you need this: American Policing and the Coming Civil War by Bill Buppert http://zerogov.com/?p=3683Edhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14658730069022837576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85815805944070388642014-10-23T14:32:20.951-06:002014-10-23T14:32:20.951-06:00All it will take anyone to learn to hate the cops ...All it will take anyone to learn to hate the cops is to simply call them when you are having a problem.<br />You will quickly learn what their 'real' job is.<br /><br />http://goldtradercommentsaugust2010.blogspot.com/GOLDTRADER COMMENTShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14345693199686305954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-25320908366431546612014-10-23T11:27:44.682-06:002014-10-23T11:27:44.682-06:00Someone has to do the job, and since the majority ...Someone has to do the job, and since the majority doesn't want to adhere to the rule of law as it is clearly stated at Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 of the Constitution, ("execute the Laws of the Union"), this is what we get for our ambivalence, and disrespect for the sacrifices that were made by our Forefathers. <br />I have petitioned my governor to enforce the law as it was established, and asked for support from the community. I've been ridiculed and condemned. So when we complain about the conduct of unlawful agencies, whether or not there are "good" people there or not, we have only ourselves to blame. <br />Learn the law. Speak of the law. Tell your elected representatives that their job is to protect rights not infringe upon them. There is no original tenor, other than judicial fiat, for the fraudulent power of the police. <br />So let's start the conversation that we need. Read Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15 of the Constitution, and the corresponding states constitutional authority. Demand that your state reps or governor enforce that law. In this nation it is the People who are the sovereigns with certain sovereign powers granted to the government. The Authors of the Constitution made that perfectly clear when they created the branch that is the only recognized authority to "execute the Laws of the Union". It cannot be changed by an act, or judicial edict. It can only be changed by the amendment process and our willingness to abdicate our sovereign powers. <br />I believe, with all my heart that Mr. Grigg needs to add that clearly enumerated law to all his articles, as does every other so-called patriot. <br />Nick/http://www.restoretherepublic.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58155024457910969412014-10-23T08:49:19.756-06:002014-10-23T08:49:19.756-06:00To Anon 9:09PM
"Hate lawmakers" . . . ye...To Anon 9:09PM<br />"Hate lawmakers" . . . yes, assuredly. They legislate into existence bad law (mala prohibita) and empower the uniformed apes to ram it down your throat. "Don't hate cops" . . . couldn't disagree more! As Gore Vidal said in "Death In The Fifth Position": "There is something about The State putting the power to bully into the hands of subnormal, sadistic apes that makes my blood boil." Or as Bill Buppert writes at Zero.gov: "In the end, the police are THE existential threat to human liberty; no political actor could deny a single human being liberty or freedom if the enforcer class didn’t exist. None.” The suit-and-tie "lawmaker" enables the ugly process, but it is the traitorous, badged, typically low-moderate IQ official hoodlum that enforces it against his neighbors. As Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said in "The Gulag Archipelago", indicting not so much the butcher Stalin ("lawmaker") but rather his goon squad security operatives/organs ("cops"): “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” It won't be the "lawmaker" that breaks your door in, it will be his hired meathead muscle, the praetorian hog. rkshannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-88798852730730795952014-10-22T21:09:48.022-06:002014-10-22T21:09:48.022-06:00Wow. This is a damn well written and thoughtfully ...Wow. This is a damn well written and thoughtfully composed treatise on a subject that disturbs me more and more each day. This country is becoming a police state and the 'sheeple' continue to elect those who support the horrendous acts described in your article and more. I'm a middle aged middle class white guy; the type who is constantly purported to support 'law and order' but my peers better wake up and realize that the things the cops are doing to 'those people' will eventually be the things they are doing to YOU, skin color is not the issue; the sanctioned use of excessive force and government imposition under the guise of 'public welfare' is the goal. When white soccer moms start getting killed (and it's very assuredly coming) then an outcry will occur. Sad but true. Don't hate cops (mostly), hate lawmakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-29831464049632222872014-10-22T07:21:11.722-06:002014-10-22T07:21:11.722-06:00i absolutely agree with 'school...' with r...i absolutely agree with 'school...' with respect to market based policing. it is beyond time that such a move be completed. <br /><br />the 'kill/maim/hurt/bully' caste will see things differently, of course, since the vast majority of them will no longer have a job under such a system given their 'capo' (as used by jews in concentration camps to refer to 'one of their own' who betrayed them daily) mindset.<br /><br />i will not hold my breath for such a change in the near future, though. the authoritarians and their bleating sheep supporters are far too numerous at present for any meaningful change to take place now. on the other hand, given all that is transpiring with the rising groundswell of anger, the days of policing in the present form are definitely limited. this is a good thing...a<br />very good thing. kirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31412756751129045252014-10-21T14:33:34.140-06:002014-10-21T14:33:34.140-06:00Exquisitely written! Just the right amount of eve...Exquisitely written! Just the right amount of everything! I only hope these blind jack boots have a chance to read this wonderful work! The only answer is to END the socialized delivery of protection services and move to a free market subscription based system of policing and protection, one where the paying customer is in control!schoolofhardknockshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05568293481763188154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63175483448388687032014-10-21T12:19:00.441-06:002014-10-21T12:19:00.441-06:00Ditto JdL,
If you're impressed with Will'...Ditto JdL, <br />If you're impressed with Will's writing (as i have been for some time), you'll be awe stricken by his rhetorical acuity - i often catch him been interviewed by the great Scott Horton (radio guy not the other great Scott Horton the lawyer).Ali Abdirahmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02505249948989336780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-1965188092982075042014-10-21T08:40:25.516-06:002014-10-21T08:40:25.516-06:00There's no one who can form a sentence like yo...There's no one who can form a sentence like you, Will! This is my favorite: "... which means that the NYPD must consider itself to be either a tribe, a cult, or perhaps even a sexual orientation, most likely one that fetishizes sadistic mistreatment of the helpless." Har!<br /><br />Of course, even as I laugh at your expert verbal slicing and dicing, I know that the terrible reality remains after the laughter stops. Thanks, as always, for bringing it into view. Just linked to this from the latest column at Carlos Miller's PINAC; hope you'll get some hits!JdLnoreply@blogger.com