tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post5048101856344179109..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Judicial Terrorism: The State vs. Robert and Danille KahreWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-83131581550486824072009-12-05T22:53:31.222-07:002009-12-05T22:53:31.222-07:00So what can we do to help the Kahres? Is there a ...So what can we do to help the Kahres? Is there a relief fund to which I can donate? How about an address where I can send a letter of support? They need to know that they're not alone, that even though the fury of Leviathan may have descended on them, there are many of us who see them as heroes.Kevin S. Van Hornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-26687355195252433842009-12-01T12:39:21.412-07:002009-12-01T12:39:21.412-07:00Blackstone @ 8:37 am:
Yes, but if everybody used ...Blackstone @ 8:37 am:<br /><br />Yes, but if everybody used gold coins, at $1,000 per ounce in pretend money, your annual salary, instead of $50,000, would be 50 coins x $50 or $2,500**, which does not even cover your standard deduction. The IRS would collect nothing.<br /><br />No money to pay the politicians to emit gas on Capitol Hill.<br /><br />No money to pay the police to help shear the sheep.<br /><br />No money to pay the Army to steal oil from Iraqis for Exxon-Mobil and Chevron-Texaco.<br /><br />No money to pay the Army to protect the CIA's opium crop in Afghanistan.<br /><br />Oh mercy, Percy, we can't have that. Off to jail, all of you.<br /><br />Tom Joad.<br /><br />**(Or, just about what your annual salary used to be in 1913, before a bunch of bankers and billionaires bought off the Congress and put together a closely held secret private company with the exclusive right to create "money" out of thin air, and charge us taxpayers interest on the use of it besides, calling it the "Federal" Reserve. Anyone else trying to horn in on their action will go to jail for a long, long time.)<br /><br />This land is your land, this land is my land....<br /><br />Right.Tom Joadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2149215001432551912009-12-01T12:15:38.359-07:002009-12-01T12:15:38.359-07:00Question (rhetorical or course) re. Seattle:
How ...Question (rhetorical or course) re. Seattle:<br /><br />How come when police are killed, we see weeping wives, bereft orphaned children, angry sisters and brothers, and a whole Greek chorus of lament and histrionics from the media, but when police murder members of the public, the media virtually ignores it, except for two lines on Page 35 of the B section?<br /><br />The answer, of course, is that the media serve the interests of the corporate state, not the public. The corporations are served by the politicians that take their campaign money, served by the thuggish police who are paid by the politicians (using taxes the state illegally extorts from the public) and served by the media which is owned by the corporate state.<br /><br />(And they ask themselves why the public has stopped buying newspapers. Answer: You can fool some of the people all of the time...)<br /><br />We the public are merely serfs and cotton-pickers who work our butts off to pay for it all.<br /><br />I read once that in 1970, 44% of the IRS intake came from corporations. Today the corporate share of the IRS extortion racket has shrunk to 6%. From Public 56%, Corporations 44%, it has become Public 94%, Corporations 6%.<br /><br />So why then do the politicians oblige the corporations and not us? Why trillions of our tax money to bail out the banks and give billions in bonuses to their CEO's, and a few millions to keep us peons from starving?<br /><br />America, America, God shed His grace on thee....<br /><br />Right. <br /><br />All that is required of us is to say "Yessir, massa, anyt'ing you says, massa, I'se so gratitudilous for youse kindness, massa, I's'll be a good niggah, massa, oh yassirree, massa."<br /><br />I thought I heard somewhere, that over 600,000 of us died a while back to abolish slavery.<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />Land of the free, and home of the brave.<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />This land is your land, this land is my land....<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />One nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.<br /><br />Right.<br /><br />Only small children believe any of it any more, along with the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy.<br /><br />Welcome to the Plantation.<br />- Tom Joad.<br /><br />PS: Too bad it took a crazy child rapist to do what needed to be done. Stormtroopers 1, We the People 4. All the breast-beating and cries of "Why? Why?" For the answer, look on Page 35 of the B Section.Tom Joadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-71016071281292684082009-12-01T09:37:16.157-07:002009-12-01T09:37:16.157-07:00Here's an example of what went down:
The Kahr...Here's an example of what went down:<br /><br />The Kahre's tried to game the system and lost.<br /><br />Let's say they reported revenues of $10,000. They paid a contractor with a $50 face value Gold Coin. However, it cost them $1000 to buy the $50 coin so they reported an expense of $1000 on the IRS form. Here is the problem - the gov't says the $50 gold coin is legal tender and was used to pay a debt at face value, therefore the only amount that can be expensed is the $50, not $1000.<br />Thus they owe tax on $9,950, not $9000. At a 20% tax rate they were short $190 in taxes. Now multiply it by the real numbers in the case and you can see why the prosecutor had a case, why the jury believed the prosecutor and why the judge ruled it all to be good.<br /><br />To me this seems like a case of trying to play it both ways.Blackstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-5112467551862374142009-12-01T08:03:47.945-07:002009-12-01T08:03:47.945-07:00Mr. Grigg,
I believe you are the right person to ...Mr. Grigg,<br /><br />I believe you are the right person to do an article on Sherry Peel Jackson, who is suffering in prison with a medical condition that isn't being treated.<br /><br />Sherry is an ex-IRS agent who exposed government fraud. You can reach her husband Colin at colinljackson@msn.com<br /><br />God BlessRosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06590050296137331759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-85944013325503254442009-12-01T06:42:22.804-07:002009-12-01T06:42:22.804-07:00Please could put up a side by side pic of Herbert ...Please could put up a side by side pic of Herbert Kornfeld and teh judge it would be a funneee like no other. Am laughing aloud thinking of it.lumpen prole serfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6818844755695079582009-11-30T20:15:44.033-07:002009-11-30T20:15:44.033-07:00Yes, the emperor (oligarchs) has no clothes - and ...Yes, the emperor (oligarchs) has no clothes - and thank you for continuing to remind your readers of that. The, so called, 'rules' are fungible as it applies to the 'rulers'.<br /><br />At some point, we have to act to end the tyranny and that is the discussion that needs to happen sooner rather than later. We have wasted a century arguing the virtues/vices now we have to start advocating radical new changes to our whole concept of governance.<br /><br />Sic Semper TyrannisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-12115594936863200252009-11-30T18:17:08.712-07:002009-11-30T18:17:08.712-07:00Herbert Kornfeld has a doppelganger! *(evul though...Herbert Kornfeld has a doppelganger! *(evul thoughtcrime)*Bucky McMumble Jibberishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69813685419914849612009-11-30T17:40:12.185-07:002009-11-30T17:40:12.185-07:00Well said, I couldn't improve on the article i...Well said, I couldn't improve on the article if I tried. From the scum Judge informing parents that children must be forced to love the government to the outrageously brutish tactics used against tax violators, the only people not criminal in that court room were the victims at the defense's table.Nphyxxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12813167090805535782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-73897961490522483732009-11-30T10:00:18.307-07:002009-11-30T10:00:18.307-07:00William,
The basic premise of de judge is that an ...William,<br />The basic premise of de judge is that an income tax on citizens exists. It may be hard to believe, but it does not.<br /><br />The pursuit of a livelihood is secured as a Constitutional right by the clause of Liberty. Constitutional rights are not acceptable objects for taxation. If your right to make a living is a suitable object for taxation, the government could legally confiscate 100% of your earnings(and is progressing to this end).<br /><br />An analysis of how the government indictments avoid the requirement of Due Process to identify the law that imposes a "known legal duty" is made in a rebuttal of the US v Vroman opinion posted at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tips_and_tricks/message/17162 and at other web sites.Olde Rebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-46994266654017444492009-11-30T01:10:49.393-07:002009-11-30T01:10:49.393-07:00OK... I recall these people won some case quite a ...OK... I recall these people won some case quite a while ago so I'm confused as to why now they're going to jail. My head is spinning. If its not one thing its another. Just another piece of tyranny along with yesterdays and the days before. Day after day it keeps on keepin on.MoThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13996714804361467430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-39541256367431760702009-11-29T17:07:41.982-07:002009-11-29T17:07:41.982-07:00I am surprised that the Fed guv spokesdrone didn&#...I am surprised that the Fed guv spokesdrone didn't refer to their residence/business as a compound. They usually do. Hell they even called the house the Brown's lived in a compound. Never mind that it was appraised by the town of Plainfield at over 1 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-40592498839622002982009-11-29T13:18:59.291-07:002009-11-29T13:18:59.291-07:00Tom,
you are spot on, but the reality is that non...Tom,<br /><br />you are spot on, but the reality is that none of your research, or anything else matters. i'm not trying to be rude, but to these people, they do not care what the law says or what we think.<br /><br />they know they will not be punished.<br /><br />they know they can act with impunity.<br /><br />they know they control the courts.<br /><br />they know they control the interpretation of law<br /><br />they know they control the grand juries<br /><br />they know they control the juries through their screening out process call voire dire.<br /><br />they know they control the media.<br /><br />they know they have most of the guns.<br /><br />they know they know they know...and they know there is not much you can do about it. write an article, read a book, take out an ad...they know you can do all of this and it won't do you a d@mn bit of good.<br /><br />so what will work? prayer and education. sincere and fervent prayer always works. and as for education, most people don't know what is going on. they are distracted. fortunately this economic crisis is opening people's eyes. unfortunately, the affected and afflicted don't know who or what is the cause of the problem. they believe whatever the media tells them.<br /><br />these "folks" who are behind this mess and those who enforce it do not realize the amount of animosity they are stirring up. when the crap hits the fan, i think many will reap what they have sown. no one will go to their help. sadly, i think the other govt employeees still feeding off of the public will will become an even greater threat by subjigating the general public even more 1984 style.<br /><br />beat the IRS? only if Jesus is your lawyer. otherwise, it's not worth it. you'll go down like a martyr. i like how ron paul once put it in an interview, (to paraphrase him) "these folks making these arguments are 100% right, but it doesn't matter! the IRS will throw you in jail."<br /><br />or G E griffin when asked about why he pays the tax he knows is unlawfully being collected, (paraphrasing) "it is not worth it to fight these folks at their game. you will lose and educating folks from a prison is next to impossible"<br /><br />or peter schiff in an interview, "my dad found out lots of information on this subject and was correct. but he is now in jail. whenever i speak to him he brings up that the IRS is wrong, but then i respond that it doesn't matter because they will throw you in jail regardless of the law."<br /><br />is what we are experiencing extortion? yup! big fat and ugly extortion.<br /><br />Caesar is gonna get his, then God will get Caesar.<br /><br />will,<br /><br />as one person once responded here, the coinage act of 1792 did authorize copper coins. i hate to admit it but he was right. the constitution says the states are to use gold and silver coins, not the feds. it just says the feds are to coin money. now i agree with you that common sense dictates that if the states cannot coin money but have to use what the central govt coins, but they can only accept gold and silver coins, then it would mean that the central govt can only mint gold and silver coins.<br /><br />...but it never says this. it's a loophole. something even you have admitted the constitution is full of.<br /><br />rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14929068022696753182009-11-29T12:28:23.112-07:002009-11-29T12:28:23.112-07:00A consequence of referring to the fiat currency as...A consequence of referring to the fiat currency as "money", instead of "bank notes"? Even the marginally inquisitive may ask which bank issued the notes; if the respondent is not careful, his answer may include the word "central". How can there be a central bank when there is no central government? Furthermore, where in the Constitution may we find the terms "central bank", or "federal reserve"?TJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-50005560713882299992009-11-29T05:14:24.755-07:002009-11-29T05:14:24.755-07:00Mr. Grigg,
Please see this link - the article is ...Mr. Grigg,<br /><br />Please see this link - the article is entitled: "Hard Evidence that Form 1040 Has No Legal Basis in Law - IRS Withdraws Criminal Allegation, Tax Convict Walks Free"<br /><br />http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=23026<br /><br />Please pass it on to Robert or Danille Kahre if you have their contact information. <br /><br />If one has a lawyer who is willing to risk his future career to defend you on this basis, you can beat the IRS, and never need to file another tax return.<br /><br />Regarding gold and silver investing: State governments maintain that US gold coins and other gold coins are NOT legal tender but are a commodity. If you buy any form of gold or silver in-state, you will have to pay state sales taxes on it. This is in spite of the fact that no federal law has ever been passed to overturn the legal tender status in the USA of US-federal-government-issued gold and silver coins.<br /><br />One caveat for your readers: The Chinese are pouring literally hundreds of thousands of fake gold and silver coins onto the market - all dates, all mints, all denominations, and all countries, including Sovereigns, 20-Francs, Russian Gold Rubles in all denominations, and many others, such as Mexican coins. The only way to protect yourself if buying gold or silver coins is to buy a digital scale and weigh them - the Chinese fakes are invariably light, since they use 14-karat gold and then plate it, or .800 silver instead of .900 silver. Other than the weight, the fakes are undetectable - they are stamped out just like real coins using dies cut by computer-guided lasers.<br /><br />Simply Google "Chinese Fake Coins" or "Chinese Counterfeit Coins" and you will find many articles on the subject.<br /><br />The Treasury has shown no interest in prosecuting dealers and importers of these fake Chinese coins, even though technically it is forgery of US legal tender currency.<br /><br />I hope this information is of use to your readers.<br /><br />Tom Joad.Tom Joadnoreply@blogger.com