tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post4073177806422315466..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: Child-Snatchers and Life-Stealers -- Pt. IWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76191156463757540762014-08-17T10:25:54.721-06:002014-08-17T10:25:54.721-06:00Mr Grigg, thanks again for yet another awesome inv...Mr Grigg, thanks again for yet another awesome investigative piece. Even I am impressed by the degree of corruption described.<br /><br />Now you did I understand you correctly that Jagels only had to run for the office of the DA once? Is that truly so? Are these the laws in Kern County, CA?Boris Epsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08194890014852776515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-10479355376716579212009-12-28T02:51:47.645-07:002009-12-28T02:51:47.645-07:00http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/21/kern-countys...http://reason.com/archives/2009/12/21/kern-countys-monstrous-da<br />Farewell to Ed Jagels, a man who put 25 innocent “child abusers” in prison.<br />http://witchhuntmovie.com/press.html<br />WitchHunt Movie.<br /><br />http://www.truthinjustice.org/ed-jagels.htm<br />Ed Jagels put two dozen innocent people behind bars on charges that they molested their own kids -- while ignoring evidence that his friends were throwing orgies with teenage boys.<br /><br />SALEM Witch Trials<br />http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/salem.htm<br />"Governor Phips blamed the entire affair on William Stoughton. Stoughton, clearly more to blame than anyone for the tragic episode, refused to apologize or explain himself. He criticized Phips for interfering just when he was about to "clear the land" of witches. Stoughton became the next governor of Massachusetts."<br /><br />IS YOUR NAME with the next witch-hunt?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14597166764403530892009-11-13T12:14:06.687-07:002009-11-13T12:14:06.687-07:00WRT Anon 7:29AM- That's the tactic ALWAYS used...WRT Anon 7:29AM- That's the tactic ALWAYS used by those who want everyone even <i>accused</i> of anything like this to be castrated and then killed no matter what. Pathetic, knee-jerk reactionaries. But it is also why I will keep standing up for what is RIGHT no matter what people like that pitiful anonymous commenter say or threaten.Kent McManigalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-62596296736433109992009-11-13T09:29:50.201-07:002009-11-13T09:29:50.201-07:00You appear to have missed a couple of small but si...You appear to have missed a couple of small but significant details in the story above -- such as the fact that the people profiled therein are <i>innocent</i> of hideous crimes against children.<br /><br />I don't condone sending innocent people to prison. Do you? Would stealing decades out of the life of innocent people somehow mitigate the pain felt by victims of child abuse?<br /><br />As the second story in this series makes clear, the scandal of unjust imprisonment in Bakersfield was compounded by the fact that the corrupt prosecutor was covering up for real sexual predators. Any honest and rational reader would recognize that I hold no brief for child predators or predatory prosecutors who send innocent people to prison.<br /><br />I would also be grateful if you would explain how, exactly, one would rape himself.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27205038584593243692009-11-13T08:29:37.708-07:002009-11-13T08:29:37.708-07:00You support child molestation and child pornograph...You support child molestation and child pornography?!?!?<br /><br />I dare you to be molested like I did - let's see how you like it, you filthy bastard. Capitalizing upon a few mistrials to propagate your libertarian agenda.<br /><br />Go rape yourself,<br /><br />One of the hundreds of thousands of victims of child abuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-43266489726825108512009-09-17T19:42:50.895-06:002009-09-17T19:42:50.895-06:00An update on John Stoll. On September 15, 2009, t...An update on John Stoll. On September 15, 2009, the County of Kern settled the federal lawsuit filed by John Stoll for $5.5 million. Here is the link to the story:<br /><br />http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x746310118/County-settles-John-Stoll-lawsuit-for-5-millionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-46356691395146683302009-09-17T03:45:00.191-06:002009-09-17T03:45:00.191-06:00I just finished watching Witch Hunt. WOW...it was...I just finished watching Witch Hunt. WOW...it was terrific and it was heart-wrenching. I have been a resident of Bakersfield for the past 30 years and remember well these cases. <br /><br />As more and more people were being arrested, my husband and I would look at each other and wonder what the hell was going on? It never felt...right...we knew that something was just not right with all the charges and cases coming up. <br /><br />But let me tell you that people here were really frightened...especially when the allegations of Satanism and child pornography rings and human sacrifice came to the fore. People were nervous about letting anyone around their kids...even other family members. <br /><br />There was a strong belief that the allegations just had to be true...after all, look at all the law enforcement people (from the county and the city), social workers, attorneys, etc. who were all on the same page. These people were from different agencies...had different administrative structures...had different investigators...and yet were in agreement that these crimes had been committed by the defendants. <br /><br />Bakersfield is very conservative socially and politically and is more akin to a small town in the Midwest than a city with a population in excess of 300K in the State of California. As such, initially there was really no feeling within the "locals" that something was amiss with the charges...that there was malfeasance or gross incompetence on the part of the authorities.<br /><br />Given the hysteria, there was no way that anyone charged was going to get a dispassionate or fair-minded jury...the charges were horrendous and the news media really amped it up. You could not escape hearing about this on TV, radio or in the print. It was ALL over and everyone was talking about it...at the grocery store, bank, hair salon, restaurants, church, everywhere. <br /><br />As someone who works within the local legal system, I was surprised that these trials were not moved to a different venue. <br /><br />When Attorney General John Van de Kamp became involved and issued his report, it was obvious that these people who had been convicted were going to get new trials and probably have their convictions overturned. What was astonishing to me was how long it took to get these people a new trial or hearing.<br /><br />As more and more finally came to hearing or trial and had their convictions overturned, it just sickened us as we saw the number of years these poeople had spent in prison...with some dying there. And when John Stoll finally got his hearing...that was probably the most heart-breaking of all. It was obvious the guy had been wrongfully accused and convicted...yet there was his son dragged out to testify against him again. Ahh John, I do not know how you bore it.<br /><br />After all the wrongful convictions, we, the local taxpayers, were left with paying out settlements to those imprisoned. I cannot recall how many lawsuits there were, but I think the settlements have been about 5 million dollars so far. In the movie, it said John Stoll received 700K...for 20 years in prison and the loss of his son. 700K...or what...like $35K per year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-77014667985332285092009-08-06T16:11:44.436-06:002009-08-06T16:11:44.436-06:00Of course, none of the State's agents - the ju...Of course, none of the State's agents - the judges, police or prosecutors - were thrown in prison, or even reprimanded.All-In-Allhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11053018978837239112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58622435388217621302009-08-06T15:56:15.268-06:002009-08-06T15:56:15.268-06:00"You're cultivating disrespect for govern...<i>"You're cultivating disrespect for government in your children!" protested a relative not long ago. "Every way I can think of doing so, with each opportunity that presents itself, every single day that God sends me!" I responded.</i><br /><br><br />That was absolutely amazing to read. I love you, man.Aaron Kinneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-2482575045208464292009-08-04T17:43:30.742-06:002009-08-04T17:43:30.742-06:00When I watched Witch Hunt, I sobbed. I felt they ...When I watched Witch Hunt, I sobbed. I felt they were telling our story as our son was falsely accused and is now serving 8-16 years for something that never happened. WHEN is our judicial system going to become fair and just? This was 23 years ago or more and this is the EASIEST type of case to convict on. HOW do we as American's bring national attention to the thousands that sit in prison falsely accused of this crime? See our site and the links of others we know of that have been falsely accused at <br />www.justiceformike.net<br /><br />This has GOT to stop!!!!! But how?Missing our sonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024729477034653040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48097983002414740672009-07-30T17:32:27.877-06:002009-07-30T17:32:27.877-06:00Yes...? :-)Yes...? :-)William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-66541247035021403272009-07-30T17:28:36.831-06:002009-07-30T17:28:36.831-06:00WillWillphenryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08196203763445455491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-51516622958690633542009-07-28T21:33:02.555-06:002009-07-28T21:33:02.555-06:00I lost my childhood plus 10 years of time with my ...I lost my childhood plus 10 years of time with my father due to this sort of BS from the State. My two siblings were likewise robbed. There is a tremendous amount of damage done which is yet to be healed from.<br /><br />However, I must give credit where credit is due - thanks to the incompetence, dishonesty, and good intentions I learned not to trust or believe authority figures or the govt by the age of 5. I most likely would not be a libertarian or at least not advanced so far in my philosophy had I not been given an object lesson on the subject of tyranny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6994800829088910562009-07-28T18:27:56.598-06:002009-07-28T18:27:56.598-06:00This really got going with the McMartin case in Ma...This really got going with the McMartin case in Manhattan Beach. All in that case were found to be victims as well. The CA state AG needed to step in, in both of these scams. <br />I simply can't not understand why no justice has been dished out to these government parasite criminals. Again this only shows that we the decent citizens have no government that is in place to serve us.AvgJoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-92140076901687541412009-07-27T11:47:59.100-06:002009-07-27T11:47:59.100-06:00Is anyone else having trouble with the RSS feed fo...Is anyone else having trouble with the RSS feed for this blog? I'm using iGoogle and I haven't gotten an update since "A Convenant With Death". I stopped by today to see what was up, and found several posts! I deleted and re-subscribed, but still only see up to that point. <br /><br />Anyway, hope you get it fixed, but until then I'll just randomly stop by looking for updates - keep up the great work on one of my favorite blogs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-30176366274798318802009-07-26T16:42:35.780-06:002009-07-26T16:42:35.780-06:00"Every way I can. with every opportunity that..."Every way I can. with every opportunity that presents itself" Somtimes I don't feel like I'm doing a very good job with my kids, and then a family member reminds me that I'm not doing so bad after all! Sounds like you get an ocassional reminder that your not doing so bad of a job either! I don't always comment but I always read. Keep up the good work!matt hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03216192349362870135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-69581796236587411282009-07-26T11:39:04.255-06:002009-07-26T11:39:04.255-06:00@Lemuel Gulliver
"Where is our Joan of Arc? ...@Lemuel Gulliver<br /><br />"Where is our Joan of Arc? Where is our *** ******? Where is our Paul Revere?"<br /><br />There is a man standing up to<br />our enemies in D.C., his name<br />is Ron Paul.<br />Unfortunately Americans want<br />a knight on a white horse rather<br />than a gentleman from their own<br />ranks.<br />The truth speaks with a "small<br />still voice." Today however<br />you have to have a bullhorn to<br />rise above the din.<br />Go, Ron. Go!willbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-32695579207243973622009-07-26T07:15:57.504-06:002009-07-26T07:15:57.504-06:00William,
I don't often take time to say how v...William,<br /><br />I don't often take time to say how very much your writings mean to me, but they do mean a lot. <br /><br />Please know that I love you work. May God bless you and yours.Josephhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03703613395041219985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-42182096311838612642009-07-26T04:11:28.577-06:002009-07-26T04:11:28.577-06:00Anonymous @ 5:14,
Good point. We have more people...Anonymous @ 5:14,<br /><br />Good point. We have more people in jail, 2 million plus, than any other country, even Red China with 4 times the population. Per capita, we have 6 times as many black people in jail as South Africa did in 1987. (And here, blacks are the minority instead of the majority.)<br /><br />I checked out the Texas Mineola Swingers Club case, and found this in the Dallas Morning News article of 8/04/2008:<br /><br />"The youngest regularly masturbated until she bled after being taken into state custody. Her older brother and sister masturbated regularly at school and even in the aisles of Wal-Mart. The boy also defecated <br />on himself when angry or scared and soiled himself the day he first had to testify against his mother in the Tyler trials. Behavior experts say that is common in sexually abused boys."<br /><br />It is difficult to get at the truth in some of these cases. This one in Texas just might have some basis, if these behaviors manifested before the arrests were made and the kids' testimony extracted. Even so, harsh interrogations and coerced testimony alone would not seem to me to be likely to generate this kind of physical sexual acting-out. But I'm not a behavior expert. <br /><br />One thing for sure: the kids have been terribly traumatized and are the real helpless victims of predatory adults - which ones, we do not know for sure.<br /><br />http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/080308dnmetmineola.4109607.html<br /><br />Lemuel GulliverLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-77638731360421021672009-07-26T03:33:04.139-06:002009-07-26T03:33:04.139-06:00Hi Anonymous @ 5:15,
Point taken. Perhaps I shoul...Hi Anonymous @ 5:15,<br /><br />Point taken. Perhaps I should have better chosen Simon Bolivar. Anyway, we just could end up some day with a Che Guevara or a Fidel Castro, or more likely, given this country's psyche, a Mussolini or a Hitler, if a Bolivar does not step forward.<br /><br />Lemuel GulliverLemuel Gullivernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-36641333603540357822009-07-26T03:32:35.175-06:002009-07-26T03:32:35.175-06:00Che Geuvera the executioner/torturer being compare...Che Geuvera the executioner/torturer being compared to the creep in California?<br /><br />They are from separate schools of evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-18957073339767355862009-07-26T01:39:39.183-06:002009-07-26T01:39:39.183-06:00Teaching children to disrespect the gov is the way...Teaching children to disrespect the gov is the way to raise children. Those children won't be serfs or slaves and won't have the media doing their thinking for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-16717056820580507982009-07-25T18:15:05.011-06:002009-07-25T18:15:05.011-06:00Lemuelle Gulliver: I understand the point that you...Lemuelle Gulliver: I understand the point that you are making. It is a good and valid one, however your choice of Che Geuvera as a man of noble intentions is naive at best. He was an evil man motivated by hate and a love of killing. In short a real loser who would be very comfortable hanging around with the likes of Ed Jangels. Old Che is not someone who can be pigeon holed into the same category of Joan of Arc or even for that matter MLKJ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48582271185471744532009-07-25T18:14:12.345-06:002009-07-25T18:14:12.345-06:00Before the benevolent government forbade it I use ...Before the benevolent government forbade it I use to go to Canada quite often as I live minutes from the border. Fort Erie is much like over here a lot of people use to work and travel cross border. It comes to mind that we have 7 times (per capita) people in prison as Canada I can only think that Americans are seven times as bad or the government is seven times as eager to throw people in prison.<br />More currently Judge Skeen in Tyler Texas (another hellhole) has been conducting show trials over a "Mineola Sex club". Makes for interesting reading...its all bullshit and he is up to three life sentences so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-6169995726917011122009-07-25T17:32:10.426-06:002009-07-25T17:32:10.426-06:00William N. Grigg @ 3:35 AM
just different!William N. Grigg @ 3:35 AM<br />just different!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com