tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post2097915015097267615..comments2017-04-13T04:47:21.148-06:00Comments on Pro Libertate: The Persecution of Rita HutchensWilliam N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44134952163837260372015-01-29T23:37:59.436-07:002015-01-29T23:37:59.436-07:00Mr. Bingham, would you please contact me -- WNGrig...Mr. Bingham, would you please contact me -- WNGrigg [at] msn [dot] com.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-35567930306716320012015-01-29T23:11:10.508-07:002015-01-29T23:11:10.508-07:00This story shocks me, and scares me. here is what ...This story shocks me, and scares me. here is what I am going through with Kootenai County right now. I got a ticket in September of 2000 for not having a valid license. My license showed invalid due to a mistake with Seattle over an unrecorded payment on a parking ticket. I cleared it up with a phone call, and by faxing the receipt for having paid the tickets (it was quite a few, but I did pay them) <br />I went to court on the ticket and was under the impression the case would be dropped because I had no way to know Seattle had put a "hold" on my license, and they had done so by mistake. In fact, I had just had my driving record ran by the Washington State Patrol 2 weeks earlier to be permitted to test drive State Patrol motorcycles after repaired them. <br />When I went to court with (same judge as this case) I was told I either had to plead guilty, or wait in jail for a trial. I was told if I plead guilty, I would have to pay a small fine and it would be done with. I plead guilty. I got 10 days in jail (suspended) a 150 dollar fine, and a year of probation. Shortly after the company I was working for had problems and I had a better opportunity back in the town I grew up in, Bend Oregon. My whole family had recently moved back there, so I sold my house and left Idaho.<br />Sometime before I left, Kootenai County ordered me to show cause as to why my probation should not be revoked. They sent it to the wrong address, which I have proof of from their own records in the form of a hand written note saying they mixed it up with another case. I moved away and never thought about this, why would I.<br />Now, 14 years later, they have reopened the case and issued a warrant. I live in another state and they seem to be set on me coming back and serving 10 days in jail. The judge who now has the case seems reasonable, or at least his part time clerk does, but it seems the prosecution won't let this go. I was given a hearing with 9 days notice, denied a telephone hearing, and then rescheduled out until March. Even getting there in March would be hard for me to do, and without knowing they are not going to lock me up, I can not risk it. I would literally lose my career. A career where reputation and being a squeaky clean upstanding citizen is very important.<br />I can not get anyone from the prosecutors office to call me back, or return an email. I waited on hold for a half hour the other day, and was hung up on, I called back, they hung up again, I called back, and then they said I could not call back. I have remained very polite and professional through out this ordeal, but I am running out of patience.<br />I have talked to a couple lawyers. One said he would make a call to the prosecutor and get back to me with what this would cost to take care of. He called the prosecutor (one of the reasons they said they couldn't talk to me directly) But now will not return my calls. Another lawyer said he would loo into it for $2000, to start with. I am afraid that if I start paying a lawyer, I will end up with a black hole that I will throw money into without any results. I was told by the lawyer that wanted the $2000 that it would be unlikely to get out of coming over to Idaho even if he represented me. If that's the case, whats the point.<br />I absolutely do not want to have any type of warrant for my arrest. My current job requires me to be able to travel occasionally and my company has business in Idaho and Montana. If I were to get pulled over and arrested, not only would I lose my job, I probably would never work in the industry I am in again.<br />Over the last 15 years since I was in Idaho, I have had very thorough back ground investigations done on me by employers. Never has there been a problem, never has there been any indication that I had a warrant, anywhere, ever.<br /><br />If anyone has any ideas, please, let me know.David Binghamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05585796779985049148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-8164869465586055352014-07-30T11:12:44.594-06:002014-07-30T11:12:44.594-06:00There may be an internal memo within the Courts an...There may be an internal memo within the Courts and DA offices instructing officials to claim they have been injured by office supplies.<br /><br />A secretary for a DA's office has claimed that she sustained injury after a man "launched paperwork" at her. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4mbskVerc<br /><br />State citizen Milo challenges the jurisdiction of the de facto state of North Carolina (as allegedly put in place by the Reconstruction Acts of 1867-68) and he is met with illegal trials, delays and what would appear to be intimidation by various officers of the court system.<br /><br />Pursuant to the STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA’s own statutory law, NCGS 15A-952(d), in a special appearance there is a right to challenge jurisdiction at any time. The challenge Milo brings is a challenge for the state directly. However, as can be seen here, the state remains mute while the judge presses waivers of council and other officers of the court seem intent on intimidation and a general lack of respect for Milo's attempts to get the state to respond.Jim Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10324208571881633143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-76897831151090957012013-09-03T12:28:23.869-06:002013-09-03T12:28:23.869-06:00Dear Rita Shane Greenbank is a jerk and nothing ot...Dear Rita Shane Greenbank is a jerk and nothing other than that herberer tries to stay up with her male counterparts and all the corrupt sandpoint and bonner county anyone in law enforcement ....men are allowed to kidnap beat strangle and rape and walk and u all 110 lbs of you were beaten by a cop bullcrap ...overhaul idaho especially bonner county you crooks ....don't choke on yr donuts the prosecuters are as bent as rapid lightening rd and their investigaTORS LIKE CHUCK SCHOONOVER ARE ALL RETIRED OINKS they never leave the system beat the crap outa their wallets RITA GOO GURLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-65996729515620790022013-08-23T06:52:43.111-06:002013-08-23T06:52:43.111-06:00When you are tired of seeing these stories, and ar...When you are tired of seeing these stories, and are tired of the corruption, all you must do is unite. it's that simple.<br /><br />Unite, Stand, and take back what is yours, and has always BEEN yours. Don't ask for permission when the permission isn't theirs to be asked of.Jay Volkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02067540213087409056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14175535351824555462013-08-12T16:23:14.339-06:002013-08-12T16:23:14.339-06:00Hello Rita, How are things going? I linked to this...Hello Rita, How are things going? I linked to this from Lew Rockwell and am wondering how you are doing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-9586035866477307472013-08-12T09:26:36.809-06:002013-08-12T09:26:36.809-06:00their intention is to use your daily responsibilit...their intention is to use your daily responsibilities against you. that is to say, by the time you get home from work and finish youre daily duties you are too tired and its too late to go out and demand change. this is why they will always have the upper hand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-75426030716848062122013-06-29T08:44:51.293-06:002013-06-29T08:44:51.293-06:00Ms. Hutchens has been on the receiving end of a cr...Ms. Hutchens has been on the receiving end of a criminal assault under the color of "authority" -- as a judge has acknowledged, and you apparently concede -- and is being targeted for an entirely unjustified prosecution, and yet <i>she</i> is the one who has "issues"? <br /><br />Some might conclude that she is eccentric. There is nothing about her behavior that justifies describing her as "irrational." I'm not sure that the same can be said about the officials who are persecuting her, or people who insist on defaming her from the shelter of anonymity. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-81700834300262857112013-06-29T08:37:00.932-06:002013-06-29T08:37:00.932-06:00Rather entertaining article, convoluted with the f...Rather entertaining article, convoluted with the facts, but never the less entertaining. Hutchens has some serious issues, not to say Sandpoint PD doesn't, but those that know Hutchens are aware of her irrational behavior. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-64373289148743947752013-06-05T00:03:17.211-06:002013-06-05T00:03:17.211-06:00got yagot yaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-58896484115825410282013-06-04T22:53:06.975-06:002013-06-04T22:53:06.975-06:00DON'T FEED THE TROLLDON'T FEED THE TROLLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-44880539227826037782013-06-03T11:19:08.884-06:002013-06-03T11:19:08.884-06:00Timmeh? If you hate this page so much why post 40 ...Timmeh? If you hate this page so much why post 40 comments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-35493215695015485802013-05-31T10:22:44.527-06:002013-05-31T10:22:44.527-06:00I'll never understand the mental block in the ...I'll never understand the mental block in the crank that keeps them from providing substance to their accusations. How many posts did Tim make without providing any substantiated accusations? Is it really that hard? He reminds me a lot of some of the bottom feeding inflamatory commenters that litter the spokesman.com with insulting baselss posts in support of Spokane's criminal police and city government.evin olsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11781221665600024319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-91024311891808898582013-05-27T16:26:32.826-06:002013-05-27T16:26:32.826-06:00I've dealt with vapid, arrogant, ignorant peop...I've dealt with vapid, arrogant, ignorant people like Timbo before. He's a legend in his own mind and thinks you have no idea what you're talking about... simply because he doesn't. He's also too thick to recognize that he has failed to make a solitary valid point or to substantiate it. <br /><br />He's saying you're basically defaming honest people. Legally speaking that is what's known as "total BS".<br /><br />#1<br />To defame or be charged for libel the officer/offender would have to have some standing and good reputation in the community to start with. Legally you can't make the case for that when a guy has been convicted or reprimanded for impropriety. You also can't do it when they break the law under color of law which they in FACT did(violating the image of an upstanding officer). So they defamed themselves. They can't bring that charge(lawfully or ethically) against you for doing what they did to themselves.<br /><br />#2<br />Generally such claims involve "damages"- that is to say that they really have NO CLAIM unless they lose their job etc. AND the factually correct claims that defamed them are actually NOT correct. <br /><br />So if I say you're a rapist and you lose your job, but you can prove that you are not a rapist, then you have a claim for libel.<br /><br />If I say you are a low life, acting under color of law, assaulting an old woman, and that you should be ashamed and chastised for your crimes which can be proven by public records, eyewitness testimony, etc. then you defamed yourself and you have no claim.<br /><br />So, in short- Slow Tim can make out words and form sentences but has ZERO understanding of the law or reality. This is because his parents are FAILURES and he will likely FAIL to teach his children to walk without their cranium firmly planted in their posterior. <br /><br />Of course they'll be too dense to notice that and think everyone else has no idea how to walk.E-Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12255599282585791162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-27031026513697736652013-05-24T00:59:11.321-06:002013-05-24T00:59:11.321-06:00Poor little petulant Timmy, I see that your dictio...Poor little petulant Timmy, I see that your diction is slipping -- but then again, your purchase on it wasn't that secure in the first place.<br /><br /><i> it would matter where you're located, because, as I'm sure you're unaware, it takes time and money to file valid legal claims against clueless individuals hell-bent on damaging the character of others, and distance does matter.</i><br /><br />As is your custom, your vehemence is inversely proportional to your understanding. My location would have nothing whatsoever to do with the "time and money" involved in filing a "legal claim" (you apparently mean a <i>civil</i> claim)against me. I've dealt with threats of this kind before -- successfully -- when it was raised by a child-snatching bureaucrat in a northeastern state. Distance played no role in that dispute; why would it be relevant in this case?<br /><br /><i>I've spent too much on this worthless site time trying to make you understand how honest adults think and act</i><br /><br />There's that problem with diction to which I referred earlier. Spoonerisms happen from time to time. People who find themselves flustered are particularly prone to them. :-)<br /><br />To paraphrase Emerson: Life is not so long that I consider it worthwhile to spend any more of mine in your company. Please feel free to play the role of fecal deposit in another person's punchbowl. <br />William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-55199139018938990052013-05-23T21:00:30.718-06:002013-05-23T21:00:30.718-06:00Willie Wonka, you have an annoying way of twisting...Willie Wonka, you have an annoying way of twisting peoples' words and meanings to fit your conspiracy theories. And yes, it would matter where you're located, because, as I'm sure you're unaware, it takes time and money to file valid legal claims against clueless individuals hell-bent on damaging the character of others, and distance does matter. I've spent too much on this worthless site time trying to make you understand how honest adults think and act, and though I've pointed out some obvious flaws in your thinking, I don't wish to repeat it and mention anything else that would be obvious to anyone, since you don't seem to listen anyway.Timothy I. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-63913419779782015312013-05-23T20:35:41.133-06:002013-05-23T20:35:41.133-06:00Wreathed in the miasmic verbal tantrum emitted fro...Wreathed in the miasmic verbal tantrum emitted from Tiny Tim's keyboard can be found one substantive admission:<br /><br /><i>You didn't, and wouldn't, listen to any examples anyway, because your mind is so closed.</i><br /><br />In other words: After repeatedly accusing me of misrepresentations, and repeatedly being told to offer specific examples, Timmy has absolved himself of the ethical responsibility to provide specifics because of my supposed close-mindedness -- which is precisely why he was put into time-out. (I'm frequently chastised for my leniency.) <br /><br /><i>I wonder if you would be saying anything about anyone in Sandpoint you felt like if you were living there, where you couldn't hide behind your little computer in Payette, and you possibly could face valid legal claims for your legally damaging behavior, like a big boy? I doubt it.</i><br /><br />If there were "valid legal claims" to be pressed against me for publishing my views, it wouldn't matter that I live in Payette, rather than in Sandpoint. <br /><br />On the other hand, your point may be that by visiting Sandpoint I could face retaliation under color of "law" for the supposed offense of criticizing the actions of municipal and county authorities. If that's the point you're trying to make, then -- once again -- you've actually validated mine. <br /><br />In any case, I do intend to visit Sandpoint as time, finances, and other circumstances permit. Watch this space for details.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-31746898142360415042013-05-23T20:06:16.215-06:002013-05-23T20:06:16.215-06:00Willie, you've definitely proven you're an...Willie, you've definitely proven you're an irresponsible, sarcastic know-it-all who has no desire to listen to anything except for what is coming from your own arrogant mouth, and no desire to be unbiased, with your continuous babbling about the supposed "crimes" individuals in Sandpoint are commiting against your angelic buddies, and the relentless attack on anyone's character you deem necessary. I wonder if you would be saying anything about anyone in Sandpoint you felt like if you were living there, where you couldn't hide behind your little computer in Payette, and you possibly could face valid legal claims for your legally damaging behavior, like a big boy? I doubt it. The facts, Willie, stick to the facts. Less spectating and more thinking. You didn't, and wouldn't, listen to any examples anyway, because your mind is so closed. Good luck with the careless ranting, because I assume arrogance would prevent you from publishing this, just like the other opinions you're apparently afraid to show the other model citizens. And who says censorship can't work? For some people, it clearly does. And, as a side note, you're not actually one granting me any space on the bandwidth. You may need to pursue a little more education.Timothy I. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-28886835399140426392013-05-23T19:27:02.295-06:002013-05-23T19:27:02.295-06:00Timmy's still in time-out, but for anyone who&...Timmy's still in time-out, but for anyone who's interested, I'll pass along his first attempt at answering the essay question:<br /><br /><i>The characterizations aren't exactly part of the potential claim of libel I was talking about, but the false accusations, and defamation of character of the individuals you're ranting about, through a seemingly endless smear campaign. That's the point, you actually are causing damage, more than you realize apparently.</i><br /><br />You've repeatedly claimed that I've made "false accusations" without providing a single example.<br /><br />To whom am I "causing damage"? I have been informed that the people who are persecuting Rita Hutchens are upset because of the overdue critical publicity they have received.<br /><br />Is this the "damage" you lament? If so, why should honest people care? Or is it your view that those people are taking out their frustrations on Rita? If that is the case, doesn't their behavior entirely validate the points I'm making?<br /><br /><i>And people who claim to be mature and want to "banish" someone, while acting in the same manner only appear to be hypocritical.</i><br /><br />I've not banished anybody. I'm earnestly hoping that at some point you'll acquire the habit of offering substantive comments as opposed to adolescent sniping.<br /><br /><br /><i>Words can get individuals into legal trouble, and it's obvious from facts gathered that Hutchens, at the center of this whole discussion, clearly needs to use less of them, and stop breaking the law with her actions also. I'm sorry, she can't claim sainthood.</i><br /><br />Rita Hutchens is neither a saint nor a criminal. She had no criminal record prior to being the victim of an act that a trial judge ruled was an unlawful exercise of violence by a Sandpoint Police Officer. The battery charge against her is facially absurd, and a transparent act of retaliation against Rita for pursuing redress for the criminal violence she suffered at the hands of the officer who assaulted her. Any rational person can see this, and any practicing adult burdened with a particle of honesty would admit it.<br /><br />Rita's behavior in the courtroom may well be ill-advised and counter-productive, but the sociopathic behavior of the public officials who are persecuting her is monumentally worse. At any time, they can climb off of Rita's back and deal with her entirely legitimate civil claim like honest people. That's the only honorable solution to this mess. I am quite confident they have no intention of pursuing that course -- and I would be <i><b>delighted</b></i> to be proven wrong.William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-14894326254919645402013-05-23T16:43:21.905-06:002013-05-23T16:43:21.905-06:00Here's a quick note to Timmy:
I know you rese...Here's a quick note to Timmy:<br /><br />I know you resent the fact that the adults have banished you to the card table in the living room while we converse at the dining room table. Until you can display a rudimentary understanding of the issues we're discussing, and some modicum of maturity in discussing them, you'll have to stay there. Whining about the supposed unfairness of your treatment simply won't do.<br /><br />Here's a short homework assignment; do well on it, and I'll consider granting you access to this bandwidth again:<br /><br />ESSAY QUESTION<br /><br />Assuming that a writer can substantiate the facts as he reports them, can he legitimately be accused of "libel" for offering unflattering characterizations of public officials who are abusing the justice system to retaliate against a victim of police abuse who is preparing a lawsuit against them?<br />William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-37245579932888374412013-05-21T10:45:32.367-06:002013-05-21T10:45:32.367-06:00Where adults are engaged in conversation, Timmy, y...Where adults are engaged in conversation, Timmy, you are at best a spectator. You have contributed nothing to the discussion but the kind of juvenile sniping I see -- and seek to discourage -- among my grade school age children. <br /><br />I've indulged your puerile heckling in the sterile hope that you would eventually have something of substance to say, which is obviously not the case. That indulgence is now at an end. If you want to discuss any of these matters with me directly, I'm quite easy to find. You'll find the experience instructive. William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-20751267274156140372013-05-21T08:46:16.569-06:002013-05-21T08:46:16.569-06:00Adults are speaking. At least please try acting l...Adults are speaking. At least please try acting like one. Oh, and you might want to stay parked in New Zealand, as we don't appreciate someone not even in this country commenting on something they can't understand. And colorful language doesn't impress me. Apparently, tiny minds do find it to be impressive, though.Timothy I. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-48229270493396601302013-05-21T00:35:35.708-06:002013-05-21T00:35:35.708-06:00"
It's not the snot running down Greenban..."<br />It's not the snot running down Greenbank's face I find offensive. It's the corruption that suppurates from the rest of his official personage to which I object. <br />"<br /><br />I'm just a retired (some say retarded) architect camped in New Zealand the last 63 years.... but look at your absolutely appallingly-corrupt oxymoronic justice system in Idaho (as well as many-if-not-most of the other 49 once-were-United States) I can see camera-clearly why investigative-journalism wins hands down in the Truth stakes.... when I compare Will's carefully-colorful rhetoric with Timothy's law-student pompous inability to take quasi-(il)legal gross corruption into his tiny mind as a real-world occurrence while the illegitimate POTUS debates endlessly on whether to declare martial law or carry on constitutional corruption blatantly in full-flaunt of adversely-abject world opinionMichael Rosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06596118574624875981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-11537478250643689322013-05-20T17:15:02.988-06:002013-05-20T17:15:02.988-06:00These claims aren't holding up very well...These claims aren't holding up very well...Timothy I. Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32869165.post-49422384098752409542013-05-20T08:53:51.337-06:002013-05-20T08:53:51.337-06:00At the very least, the "Bolsheviks" in S... <i>At the very least, the "Bolsheviks" in Sandpoint would appreciate not having to waste their time pursuing legal claims against writers with too much time on their hands and a major grudge against public officials, when they could concentrate on pursuing criminals instead.</i><br /><br />Why don't they focus on pursuing criminals, instead of perversely manufacturing offenses in order to persecute harmless people like Rita Hutchens -- who is herself a victim of officially sanctioned criminal behavior (specifically, the lawless invasion of her property and violence against her person committed by a Sandpoint Police Officer)?<br /><br /><i> no matter what one thinks of the law, we still have to follow it, and laws can still be violated. Maybe more attention should be paid to actually not breaking the law?</i><br /><br />Teresa Heberer broke the law by trespassing on Rita Hutchens' property, assaulting her, abducting her, and then attempting to use a spurious "cover charge" to justify those actions. This is not a matter of opinion: It is an established legal fact that Heberer's actions were against the law. Yet she remains on the force (and, per Greenbank's legal filings, is sharing a bed with one of the cops who invaded Hutchens' home at midnight on April 16), and her victim is being targeted for petty retaliation because she's seeking redress.<br /><br />By what moral calculation is an alleged mishap involving a ballpoint pen a "crime," and the behavior of the "public officials" to whom you refer acceptable? <br /><br />Lenin said that the most important political question was "who does what to whom." That's clearly the standard being followed by the Sandpoint and Bonner County officials in this matter: Criminal violence was done TO Hutchens by a member of the tax-feeding class, so it's no big deal. But her actions have upset some members of their cohort, which means that she must be treated as if she were a criminal.<br /><br />That's the behavior of people who are eminently worthy of being called Bolsheviks. <br /><br /> William N. Grigghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14368220509514750246noreply@blogger.com